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Some fun tidbits for those who think CEO has revolutionized the LSU offense

Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:46 am
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4854 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:46 am
NCAA Total Defense

I'd like to see some CEO lovers defend this.

Team ranks that LSU has looked "completely different on offense"

Southern Miss**: 19th
Arkansas: 77th
Moo State: 84th (Miles was coaching)
Ole Miss: 102nd
Missouri: 112th

Teams that have beaten LSU and we looked inept on offense:

Bama: 3rd
Wisconsin: 9th (Miles was coaching)
Auburn: 28th (Miles was coaching)

Teams yet to play:
Florida: 1st
Texas A&M: 98th

So, with all that said. Do you really find it that shocking how "good" this offense has looked under CEO? Did the thought that maybe those teams are just really bad enter your head?
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 11:54 am
Posted by BK785
Member since Feb 2013
3861 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:49 am to
You"ll get down voted to death for being the voice of reason.
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18579 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:51 am to
Well in his defense, the offense since he took over has looked legitimately better. Better playcaling/sequence, execution, etc... You can't deny that.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4854 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:53 am to
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Well in his defense, the offense since he took over has looked legitimately better. Better playcaling/sequence, execution, etc... You can't deny that.


No, the offense has not looked completely different. The ONLY difference has been personnel packages and formations. The plays and/or route tree have been practically identical. Just because they've looked different on the surface, doesn't mean they're actually different. And how was that play calling against Bama? How were those half-time adjustments?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70178 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:54 am to
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I'd like to see some CEO lovers defend this.


As an LSU defender can I just say that at no point under miles has our offense ever ooked that good over a 3 game stretch...is that b/c of the defenses we faced or the fact miles was gone? I am sure in his 10 years we faced 3 consecutive shitty defenses before.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38456 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:54 am to
Oh, don't worry. The excuses for this will come soon. Get ready for "Well, O can't help what teams he plays" or "Well, O is getting a new elite OC. That's not on him" or "O will recruit a star QB and oline! That's Miles fault" or "Do you expect him to change the offense in a few weeks?". All the while giving him all the credit when something good happens or is brought to their attention.

And round n round we go...
Posted by roach3
Just moved to LA TOUR!!!
Member since Dec 2009
3055 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:54 am to
To be honest I don't think the offense really changed. I think that they just taught the guys to execute better and not coast with the run game the first chance you got every game. It's just better coaching that's making the difference. What's sad is very simple changes caused this team to hit on all cylinders. For God's sake a TE coach is calling the offense. It's not Rocket science just executing simple play calls.

Now the defense is just a work of art Aranda is a genius
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 11:58 am
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
10082 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:55 am to
No coach can revolutionize the offense in mid season and without an OC.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84835 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:56 am to
So he's an improvement over Miles. You would think that would be a good thing.
Posted by roach3
Just moved to LA TOUR!!!
Member since Dec 2009
3055 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:57 am to
Might I add the coaching staff has done a fantastic job with the hand they have been delt. I'm not talking anything away from them. Coach O was the perfect guy to tackle this task.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7454 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:00 pm to
I prefer to use YPG and PPG, which doesn't drastically alter the rankings. But still:

Alabama - 2, PPG 2
Florida - 3, PPG 5
Wisky - 8, PPG 3
Southern Miss - 18, PPG 83
Auburn - 25, PPG 8
Arkansas - 77, PPG 76
MSU - 84, PPG 91
TAMU - 97, PPG 31
Ole Miss - 101, PPG 89
Mizzou - 110, PPG 70
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
46174 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:01 pm to
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Did the thought that maybe those teams are just really bad enter your head?
Of course not
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:02 pm to
We're missing 5 starters on defense. Coach O is about to be your permenant HC.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38456 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:04 pm to
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Coach O is about to be your permenant HC.
And you'll celebrate along with the insensible half of our fan base.

ETA: And the rest of the SEC.
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7454 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:05 pm to
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I just say that at no point under miles has our offense ever ooked that good over a 3 game stretch...is that b/c of the defenses we faced or the fact miles was gone?


That's totally untrue. LSU had a nearly identical three game stretch last year.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5964 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:11 pm to
You do realize how ignorant you are when you say our interim HC who's entire career has been on defense and specifically on dline has even tried to revolutionize anything on the offensive side of the ball. You sound like a HIllary supporter. The fact is coach O has only replaced an OC with all he had available to him on such short notice, A guy who hasn't been a coordinator in 20 years. Coach O has allowed the OC to do his job without interference which is a credit to his Head coaching unlike our previous 12 years. When you continually start threads bashing O eventually you run out of valid topics and you begin to put threads out that are ignorant just like this one. O is a defensive coach, he will never revolutionize any offense.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38456 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:17 pm to
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You do realize how ignorant you are when you say our interim HC who's entire career has been on defense and specifically on dline has even tried to revolutionize anything on the offensive side of the ball.
I forgot about this one. The ole "O is a defensive coach" bit.
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The fact is coach O has only replaced an OC with all he had available to him on such short notice, A guy who hasn't been a coordinator in 20 years.
There's the OC excuse.
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Coach O has allowed the OC to do his job without interference which is a credit to his Head coaching unlike our previous 12 years.
The ole "O let's his coordinators coach" bit. Must be nice for him to get all that credit and no blame.
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O is a defensive coach, he will never revolutionize any offense.

There it is again.
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When you continually start threads bashing O eventually you run out of valid topics and you begin to put threads out that are ignorant just like this one.
And there it is. No real argument in your entire post. Just excuses and defending poor ole O. "Stop bashing poor ole O".
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5964 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:37 pm to
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just like this one.And there it is. No real argument in your entire post. Just excuses and defending poor ole O. "Stop bashing poor ole O".


You're absolutely right. We have beaten everyone he's coached against and the one loss against bama was their biggest threat of the year. So yea, he fricked up and lost to bama. So has everyone else. Ya'll sound like a bunch of bitches your so scared O will get the job. I don't care if he does or doesn't because I know whoever we get will be better than what we've had and we were a coach away from the absolute top of CFB with the talent we have. What I'm not going to do is discredit a guy just because I don't like him especially if it makes me sound like an idiot. Which is running rampant in the O haters right now.
Posted by Linkovich
crater lake
Member since Feb 2007
9553 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:44 pm to
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We're missing 5 starters on defense. Coach O is about to be your permenant HC.


This is what scares me. Florida is a shell of what is was on defense because of injuries. Beating Florida and A&M is what LSU should do and the drum beating for O will only get louder.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4854 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:04 pm to
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ou do realize how ignorant you are when you say our interim HC who's entire career has been on defense and specifically on dline has even tried to revolutionize anything on the offensive side of the ball.


You're right, so why are so many Coach O supports saying it? I've never once said this personally.

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O is a defensive coach, he will never revolutionize any offense.


So exactly what is the purpose of keeping a defensive coach on a team that so desperately needs an offensive coach? And please, spare me the "elite" OC bullshite. Those guys don't grow on trees and the ones that are elite will end up being head coaches very, very soon. What value does coach O bring to the table?
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