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re: Potential Tulane opening

Posted on 11/7/26 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by Jacobowitz
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Posted on 11/7/26 at 3:23 pm to
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they need to intervene in early December, if not before.

Before
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
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Posted on 11/7/26 at 3:27 pm to
I still can't believe they hired will hall.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 11/7/26 at 6:22 pm to
They panicked after Baker turned them down.
Posted by Fat Harry
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Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:03 pm to
He's got to be gone after we get blown out by RICE.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:12 pm to
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Well, they have been in the AAC championship game 4 years in a row; won it in 2 of those years and were the #1 G6 2 of those years.



Again, this is coming from a distance.

But, the clear difference to me seems to be the QB. Mensah two years ago...and finding a guy in Retzaff last year (pretty fortunate) is a huge difference as compared to this year.

If Tulane wants to be a top non-P4 team, it needs to consistently have good QB play.

This coach may be terrible, but no coach is going to be as good as the previous one when the previous one had Mensah and Retzlaff and this one has nothing close.

Posted by Jacobowitz
Member since Oct 2025
156 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:15 pm to
Hall’s got to be gone NOW.

It’s clear he has lost the team and they are mailing it in on him. There’s no reason to let this fester unless Tulane is deemphasizing and plans to drop athletics in a few years.

Looks like a situation where everyone in upper university leadership is pointing fingers and refusing to fall on this sword
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
5110 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:27 pm to
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Man is very well compensated to call a defense and can have his pick of the litter for power 4 jobs


Can he?
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10504 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 7:20 pm to
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But, the clear difference to me seems to be the QB. Mensah two years ago...and finding a guy in Retzaff last year (pretty fortunate) is a huge difference as compared to this year


Tulane fans gloss over this.

Mensah was 3rd/4th string when Sumrall basically threw up his hands in camp and gave him a shot. Mensah was not a world beater but he was safe with the ball.

Had Retzlaff not decided to be naughty we were going to roll with Sullivan (a temu version of Retzlaff).

Sumralls teams were very sloppy (see his Florida team) and we won because we simply had more talent than other teams. What Sumrall is saying after the Florida games is basically verbatim what he would say after Tulane games (sloppy play gotta get better starts with him blah blah), however these comments came after a victory.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 11/9/26 at 7:46 pm to
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Tulane fans gloss over this.


I agree. Tulane has done great. But it isn’t a birthright. They have done well because they have had very good QB play.

I really don’t know anything about the coach. I remember last year saying they should make a play for the Miami OC.

But it has to find a formula that works. Invest in a QB, rely on ability to find surrounding talent at a higher rate of success than its competition.

If it instead attempts to onlyinvest in a coach (old school thinking) it will fail.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10504 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 8:01 pm to
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But it has to find a formula that works.


Boise St. hasn't really had a problem. Memphis either, although they under-delivered with Silverfield.

Hall never should have been considered unless we were turned down by many coaches. Huff was interested in the job and so was Dawson from Miami.

I think the university didn't want to conduct another search in a year or two so thats why they passed on Huff.

I've said this on here plenty but Tulane should embrace the 'stepping stone' role. Sure hiring a new coach every 1-3 years is annoying but you can use that big pile of cash from winning games to offset that annoyance.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 11/9/26 at 8:02 pm to
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I agree. Tulane has done great. But it isn’t a birthright. They have done well because they have had very good QB play.

I really don’t know anything about the coach. I remember last year saying they should make a play for the Miami OC.

But it has to find a formula that works. Invest in a QB, rely on ability to find surrounding talent at a higher rate of success than its competition.

If it instead attempts to onlyinvest in a coach (old school thinking) it will fail.

Sumrall didn't have a good plan at qb last year either, he just lucked into Retzlaff in late July.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10504 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 8:10 pm to
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he just lucked into Retzlaff in late July.


There was some frickery going on at BYU with him.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
82005 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 8:16 pm to
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There was some frickery going on at BYU with him.

Some definite fricking
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10504 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 8:16 pm to
I purposely used that. However the school was looking to get rid of him.
Posted by Eurocat
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:19 am to
Ed Ogeron
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10504 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:28 am to
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Ed Ogeron


His stepson is on the staff.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:38 am to
Hall was such a Tulane of the past hiring it boggles the mind

Tulane of the past would also let him stink for 5 years before doing anything

The time to correct the mistake is now
Posted by Fat Harry
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Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:53 am to
The Tulane tailgate for Rice in Houston - home to probably more Tulane alums than any city outside NOLA - has like 30 people signed up. Voting with their feet.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22658 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 10:20 am to
Was it Wally English or Bernie Ellender who were the worse firings in the weenies history? One or the other had the best record as far as wins / losses before getting fired as their records dropped below suitable-by-weenie-standards. But for pure pissing off the Uptown fans, I'll always respect Vegas Vince.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10504 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 10:52 am to
They completely panicked. I know Huff came out and 'declined' the Tulane offer but I think it had more to do with the Admin not wanting to do another coaching search because Huff moves around. Dawson was also interested but I think by then they were set on Hall.

The AD just admitted that Hall 'positioned himself' to be the best candidate for the job, which is an odd way to phrase that.

Also the same search firm that got the AD his job was the same search that got us Hall.
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