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My Opinion On DC Search
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:33 pm
It’s apparent that the top two choices (possibly a third in Alabamas DC) have chosen to stay at their current location, whether through promotion or extra money.
Although options like Schuman, Lake, Belk & others remain, I believe we should keep Coach Jones.
Before everyone downvotes (like I’ve seen on other posts) there’s a plethora of reasons to consider:
1. Relations: He was hired to sooth the struggles with racial issues within the team & have successfully built relationships, whereas Pelini was a massive player relationship fail.
2. Development: This category is massively understated. When our defense should have gotten worse (starter injuries) it actually progressed with backups. (Indicating player buy-in & development)
3. Schematically, the defense was sound, nothing fancy. However, the defense seemed limited. If you watch press conferences CEO made it evident that HE wanted the defense to call a handful of plays. This could indicate his hands were tied (also evident by the mention of blitz schemes being introduced later by analysts & the addition of 3-4 schemes)
Downside: His lack of play calling (which he’s gone through a whole SEC season) & he’s still unproven at recruiting.
Addition: I want to remind everyone that I believe Kelly should be able to make his own hire, & the fact that this defense (Jones) held Alabama to 6yds rushing & 20 points (fans ON THIS BOARD was clamoring for him.
Although options like Schuman, Lake, Belk & others remain, I believe we should keep Coach Jones.
Before everyone downvotes (like I’ve seen on other posts) there’s a plethora of reasons to consider:
1. Relations: He was hired to sooth the struggles with racial issues within the team & have successfully built relationships, whereas Pelini was a massive player relationship fail.
2. Development: This category is massively understated. When our defense should have gotten worse (starter injuries) it actually progressed with backups. (Indicating player buy-in & development)
3. Schematically, the defense was sound, nothing fancy. However, the defense seemed limited. If you watch press conferences CEO made it evident that HE wanted the defense to call a handful of plays. This could indicate his hands were tied (also evident by the mention of blitz schemes being introduced later by analysts & the addition of 3-4 schemes)
Downside: His lack of play calling (which he’s gone through a whole SEC season) & he’s still unproven at recruiting.
Addition: I want to remind everyone that I believe Kelly should be able to make his own hire, & the fact that this defense (Jones) held Alabama to 6yds rushing & 20 points (fans ON THIS BOARD was clamoring for him.
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Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:35 pm to BayouBengal21
Let’s let the head coach do what he thinks is best.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:37 pm to Grasshopper
That’s why it says my opinion…
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:39 pm to BayouBengal21
quote:that's a gigantic downside
Downside: His lack of play calling (which he’s gone through a whole SEC season) & he’s still unproven at recruiting
quote:and a tiny fraction of upside
Addition: I want to remind everyone that I believe Kelly should be able to make his own hire, & the fact that this defense (Jones) held Alabama to 6yds rushing & 20 points (fans ON THIS BOARD was clamoring for him.
This is the lsu DC position. One of the most prestigious coordinator spots in all of college football.
And you want to hire a guy that has 1 season under his belt where 70% was bad and 30% was good? Back up and think about that for a second.
Jones was a desperation hire last year, and has in no way proven to be elite...MAYBE average or above avg. And the defense at LSU should be looking for elite.
He's only positive is he's already here
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:40 pm to BayouBengal21
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:46 pm to BayouBengal21
quote:plus you don't even know if those coaches were offered the job. Whole lot of speculation.
It’s apparent that the top two choices (possibly a third in Alabamas DC) have chosen to stay at their current location, whether through promotion or extra money.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:47 pm to BayouBengal21
My opinion is that no one on this board can be satisfied.
Last couple of years the criticism was that the coach didn't conduct a legitimate search and hired the first candidates he spoke to (or didn't speak to)
New coach appears to be vetting and interviewing multiple candidates. No real information has been leaked. Despite all that, everyone seems to have developed a major inferiority complex. Folks now think LSU was rejected and/or no one wants to coach here.
--Mind-numbingly absurd.
Last couple of years the criticism was that the coach didn't conduct a legitimate search and hired the first candidates he spoke to (or didn't speak to)
New coach appears to be vetting and interviewing multiple candidates. No real information has been leaked. Despite all that, everyone seems to have developed a major inferiority complex. Folks now think LSU was rejected and/or no one wants to coach here.
--Mind-numbingly absurd.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:54 pm to SportTiger1
Kentucky DC had an offer on the table… widely reported
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:58 pm to Leadhead
Exactly! Coaching searches take time, must have cohesion and the right mindset or problems ensue. (See Matt Canada, a guy I thought was a slam dunk) I believe Jimmy Lake is the slam dunk in this case but still want Kelly to have his guy.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:10 pm to BayouBengal21
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:13 pm to BayouBengal21
I’m convinced now that all of you that want to keep Daronte Jones as DC is just fine with being mediocre or are just freaking clueless.
Sorry but keeping Jones shouldn’t even be an option
Sorry but keeping Jones shouldn’t even be an option
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:16 pm to BayouBengal21
quote:
Kentucky DC had an offer on the table… widely reported
Was that really the case or did we just read into the fact that this was the first candidate to leak that it must be a done deal?
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:18 pm to BayouBengal21
Freeman and Elko became Head Coaches.
It happens. Have you never been thru a HC Change before.
This is how it goes.
BK is a pro. He will get it right.
It happens. Have you never been thru a HC Change before.
This is how it goes.
BK is a pro. He will get it right.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 2:00 pm to NoGeaux
He should hire Aranda back from Baylor. I think that would be good.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 3:13 pm to NoGeaux
quote:
Freeman and Elko became Head Coaches.
4 of 5 DC Kelly hired at ND became Head Coaches, 3 at other schools and 1 replacing Kelly. Brian VanGorder was the odd man out.
3 of 5 OC Kelly hired at ND became Head Coaches with a 4th still the OC at Notre Dame.
I think this guy knows good coaches.
edited to correct 4 of 5 DCs
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 12/15/21 at 3:15 pm to Curtis Lowe
quote:this SHOULD shut everyone up...but it wont
4 of 6 DC Kelly hired at ND became Head Coaches, 3 at other schools and 1 replacing Kelly. Brian VanGorder was the odd man out.
3 of 5 OC Kelly hired at ND became Head Coaches with a 4th still the OC at Notre Dame.
I think this guy knows good coaches.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 3:18 pm to BayouBengal21
Who are our top 2 choices? Are we counting Freeman?
Posted on 12/15/21 at 3:21 pm to SportTiger1
quote:
This is the lsu DC position. One of the most prestigious coordinator spots in all of college football.
Y’all gotta give this up! We’ve had 1 good DC in the past 14 years. Our last 2 DC were 1 year 1-and-dones. So sell me on the job now: oh, what’s that? We have 5 star DBs who play when they feel like it as long as things are on the up and up. We are not the destination job we think!
Posted on 12/15/21 at 3:35 pm to BayouBengal21
quote:
It’s apparent that the top two choices (possibly a third in Alabamas DC) have chosen to stay at their current location, whether through promotion or extra money.
Although options like Schuman, Lake, Belk & others remain, I believe we should keep Coach Jones.
Stopped reading here. Then downvoted.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 3:40 pm to Andychapman13
Um chavis was pretty damn good.
Since 2008, we had chavis or aranda for 10 out of 13 years. Both were very good to elite. One got poached and the other promoted.
And the last 2 hires were done by O which doesn't and shouldn't reflect anything on LSU itself.
So basically 2008 and 2015 had bad coaches...with steele even being arguable.
Since 2008, we had chavis or aranda for 10 out of 13 years. Both were very good to elite. One got poached and the other promoted.
And the last 2 hires were done by O which doesn't and shouldn't reflect anything on LSU itself.
So basically 2008 and 2015 had bad coaches...with steele even being arguable.
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 3:43 pm
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