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re: Matt Rhule was and is the best candidate

Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:27 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:27 am to
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What's with the people not wanting Brady?

He's not that good and will be expensive. And he hates recruiting.

That about sums it up.

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Brady would rule college football as an OC for years.

Based on what?

Did you think O was going to do well after 2019? How did that work out?

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His whole thing is based off of RPOs

RPO stuff he kind of knows from PSU. Stuff that is already going out of style. Has he adapted? No.

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and hurry up offense

Countless other guys more proven doing this than Brady

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He also has an offensive rythm. We saw it all 2019.

That rhythm is named Joe Burrow, also known as Jamar Chase, also known as Justin Jefferson
Posted by El Magnifico
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:27 am to
This looks like the same argument you can make for Campbell except he won his new years 6 game and beat Oklahoma in the regular season. See how that works?
Posted by LSUdude247
Member since Oct 2014
7021 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:29 am to
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That rhythm is named Joe Burrow, also known as Jamar Chase, also known as Justin Jefferson


Oh they must've been unstoppable in 2018 too then?

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Did you think O was going to do well after 2019? How did that work out?


Absolutely not, I knew we were gonna fall off but didn't expect our coach to be so focused on getting pussy.

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RPO stuff he kind of knows from PSU. Stuff that is already going out of style. Has he adapted? No.



RPO going out of style? What?

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He's not that good and will be expensive.


Lmao I guess we are just not giving Brady his props for propelling our offense to another level in 2019?
Posted by Run DMC
somewhere in Louisiana it's tricky
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:32 am to
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Yes, a guy that is well on his way to unemployment is the best candidate.


By this logic Bama should have never hired Saban
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:33 am to
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Oh they must've been unstoppable in 2018 too then?

That is not relevant. E alone was not good. Nobody is asking 2018 E to come back to be our OC, are they?

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RPO going out of style? What?

Defenses are catching up to RPOs. They're a decade old now. Elite OCs are adapting into new things. Guys like Brady who are one-trick ponies and inexperienced without creating anything offensively are still relying on them.

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Lmao I guess we are just not giving Brady his props for propelling our offense to another level in 2019?

I give him respect for being the guy who helped E, but LSU fans think Brady is some outlier when he's in a sea of other offensive coaches who could have done the same thing. E needed help and nobody disputes that. But Brady isn't unique or special and there are dozens of other guys we could have come in to spruce up Es offense.

Many of those other options haven't failed when running an offense alone like Brady. They also like to recruit and aren't as expensive as Brady.

If you want to pay $2M for an OC, get a guy with experience shredding the SEC like Jeff Lebby.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:36 am to
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Defenses are catching up to RPOs. They're a decade old now. Elite OCs are adapting into new things. Guys like Brady who are one-trick ponies and inexperienced without creating anything offensively are still relying on them.



yep plus is run game concepts were total dog shite and he's lucky he had someone like Clyde who could make multiple people miss
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:41 am to
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SlowFlowPro


You are such a cocksucker


How good were those same three people the year before?? When Brady wasn’t here?



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Elite OCs are adapting into new things. Guys like Brady who are one-trick ponies and inexperienced without creating anything offensively are still relying on them.


New things? Like what? Where is this brand new, innovative offense?
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 7:42 am
Posted by bigezking
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:44 am to
Yea, such an accomplished coach.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:45 am to
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By this logic Bama should have never hired Saban


Saban wasn't about to get fire bro.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:45 am to
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How good were those same three people the year before?? When Brady wasn’t here?

That does. not. matter.

That argument would only make sense if people were asking for 2018 E to return as our OC. Who is doing that?

Nobody is promoting our 2018 offense by saying Brady is severely overrated. I specifically addressed this earlier.

Brady is a dime a dozen...possibly not even that much. LSU fans overrate him because they have battered wife syndrome after all the years of dinosaur offense under Les and then the offensive chaos the first 2 years under O. Just because Brady helped (didn't even run it fully) update our offense in 2019 doesn't mean he's this great OC. Dozens of other guys could have done the same.

Again, if we hire Jeff Lebby as co-OC before 2019 what changes? That's just one guy from an SEC West school. What if we hired Sark? Kevin Wilson? Harrell? K Briles? Rich Rod? ETc. And those are big names. There are literally hundreds of offensive coaches with air raid/RPO history who could have helped us update the offense.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8453 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:48 am to
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That does. not. matter.


Yes the frick it does??? Have you ever played football before? Serious question. A position coach/OC can make all the difference in the world


By this logic it doesn’t even matter who we hire as coach
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 7:49 am
Posted by jbird7
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Member since Jul 2020
5255 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:48 am to
Don’t understand the fascination with this guy.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 7:49 am
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:50 am to
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Don’t understand the fascination with this guy.


They ran out of people, so they have to convince themselves.
Posted by LSUdude247
Member since Oct 2014
7021 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:50 am to
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Again, if we hire Jeff Lebby as co-OC before 2019 what changes? That's just one guy from an SEC West school. What if we hired Sark? Kevin Wilson? Harrell? K Briles? Rich Rod? ETc. And those are big names. There are literally hundreds of offensive coaches with air raid/RPO history who could have helped us update the offense.



So your argument right now is anyone could've came in and led LSUs 2019 offense to the same thing we had? What kind of fricking retarded argument is that?

So you are completely discrediting Joe Brady because "any of these guys could've done that"..
When Joe Brady actually DID that..

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:51 am to
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Yes the frick it does???

That "argument" only matters if you see people wanting 2018 E as our OC. Do you see anyone wanting 2018 E at our OC?

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A position coach/OC can make all the difference in the world

No fricking shite.

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By this logic it doesn’t even matter who we hire as coach

Is English your first language?
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34517 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:51 am to
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That does. not. matter.




Wait, are you saying it doesn’t matter who the coach is???



You really don’t know shite about football
Posted by MickeyLikesDags21
Member since Apr 2019
6640 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:52 am to
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Yes, a guy that is well on his way to unemployment is the best candidate.


What a short sighted idiot
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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423365 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:53 am to
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So your argument right now is anyone could've came in and led LSUs 2019 offense to the same thing we had?

Not anyone, but anyone with a modicum of understanding of modern offenses to help E...yes.

With Burrow, Chase, Jefferson, Marshall, and CEH we would have had a lot of options.

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So you are completely discrediting Joe Brady

Nope. Not doing that. He did help our offense. Nobody is arguing he didn't have a role.

The argument is that Brady is not unique and certainly not worth the salary he will demand.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34517 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:53 am to
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Brady is a dime a dozen..



You are a fricking CLOWN



Why do you feel so obliged to undermine what this man did?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 7:54 am to
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Wait, are you saying it doesn’t matter who the coach is???

No. I'm saying the 2018 E offense is irrelevant to this discussion. Nobody is saying they want 2018 E to be our OC.

If people were, then yes, discussing the 2018 offensive failures is a valid and applicable discussion.
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