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re: Mark Stoops to A&M UPDATE: Staying at Kentucky
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:02 am to Lsuhoohoo
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:02 am to Lsuhoohoo
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Hey we got a Natty out of our D-line to player beloved big energy culture changing interim head coach.
You left out the part about hitting the QB lottery to make that happen. Although having good defensive players and a defensive coordinator not throw up all over himself all season certainly helps.
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PS...don't let players who are gone in a couple years dictate your hires because they're emotionally invested in a guy they know.
I can't upvote this enough. The interim hire because the players want it is almost always a bad move.
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 12:03 am
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:02 am to AGGIES
quote:It sounds like your big donors and administrators all revolted against it
Doesn’t it seem like the story has just taken so many twists and turns? I can’t tell if it was the fans who revolted, the players revolted, or Stoops declined.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:03 am to AGGIES
quote:Most accurate take of all this so far
it sounds like nothing is reliable at this point. Probably just a bunch of people are drunk tweeting at midnight.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:06 am to TrueLefty
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Maybe Brian Kelly would've been better?
Your weird obsession with him is again noted.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:07 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
I was pretty underwhelmed by the prospect of a Stoops hire but if it's true the boosters freaked out at the 11th hour and nuked whatever deal may have been in place, it speaks poorly of the culture behind the scenes. That's Bjorks hire to make in coordination with the President. If you don't trust Bjork to do his job and make the hire, get rid of him. But having boosters run amok nuking a hire they don't like is reminiscent of the decade long shite show Texas went through.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:11 am to OKBoomerSooner
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HAHAH OH NO NO NO I know y'all didn't think Stoops was a sexy hire, but that sounds downright atrocious
If only there were a couple of examples of what can happen when you hire a Line coach with little to no HC experience to lead an SEC program.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:15 am to misey94
I would rather roll the dice trying that than get a $9m a year coach who would just be 5-6 more years of 8-4 w/a slow plodding offense that’s boring AF to watch.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:18 am to Lsuhoohoo
Yeah, I would have to agree with this.
But we really don’t even know what actually happened yet.
But we really don’t even know what actually happened yet.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:22 am to Dr RC
rolling the dice is not a smart decision
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:24 am to Dr RC
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I would rather roll the dice trying that than get a $9m a year coach who would just be 5-6 more years of 8-4 w/a slow plodding offense that’s boring AF to watch.
I get the reluctance on Stoops. Most LSU fans felt the same way about him last year, as well. However, there are other more experienced guys you can trust your program with. Fisch seems like a gamble, but also seems to have potential. I think Elko would be a solid hire that you wouldn’t have to break the bank for.
This may seem crazy, but I would call Chadwell, who has won on every level with a unique system, before handing the program keys to a position coach who would be learning on the job in the SEC. Like we’ve seen with both O and Pittman, this hands-off CEO model only works if the staff is a perpetual home run. This issue even caught up to Dabo, eventually.
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 12:27 am
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:25 am to Henry Jones Jr
It’s interesting to me to be agreeing with LSU and Ole Miss fans.
There are people that think Lincoln Riley would be a good hire, and they look like idiots. That’s what this so called revolt against Stoops looks like to me.
There are people that think Lincoln Riley would be a good hire, and they look like idiots. That’s what this so called revolt against Stoops looks like to me.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:27 am to misey94
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I would rather roll the dice trying that than get a $9m a year coach who would just be 5-6 more years of 8-4 w/a slow plodding offense that’s boring AF to watch.
I get the reluctance on Stoops. Most LSU fans felt the same way about him last year, as well. However, there are other more experienced guys you can trust your program with. Fisch seems like a gamble, but also seems to have potential. I think Elko would be a solid hire that you wouldn’t have to break the bank for.
This may seem crazy, but I would call Chadwell, who has won on every level with a unique system, before handing the program keys to a position coach who would be learning on the job in the SEC. Like we’ve seen with both O and Pittman, this hands-off CEO model only works if the staff is a perpetual home run. This issue even caught up to Dabo, eventually.
Don't waste your time. Texas A&M won't pull the trigger.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:27 am to AGGIES
quote:We went through the same exact thing in 2017 when all of our players were screaming to hire Matt Luke as the full time head coach. And Bjork did and that hire did more damage to the program than the NCAA did
It’s interesting to me to be agreeing with LSU and Ole Miss fans.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:33 am to misey94
I’m fine w/Elko, Fisch, and Chadwell too.
All I’m saying is if our choice is between Stoops and ERob give me the high risk high reward choice over a guy who’d cost $9million+, would be here a minimum of 5-6 years b/c of his massive contract, and is a virtual guarantee to give us Jimbo level results at nearly the same per year price.
All I’m saying is if our choice is between Stoops and ERob give me the high risk high reward choice over a guy who’d cost $9million+, would be here a minimum of 5-6 years b/c of his massive contract, and is a virtual guarantee to give us Jimbo level results at nearly the same per year price.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:44 am to Dr RC
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’m fine w/Elko, Fisch, and Chadwell too. All I’m saying is if our choice is between Stoops and ERob give me the high risk high reward choice over a guy who’d cost $9million+, would be here a minimum of 5-6 years b/c of his massive contract, and is a virtual guarantee to give us Jimbo level results at nearly the same per year price.
Point taken. There’s just no reason for it to be a decision between Stoops and Robinson when there are so many potential options in-between.
It seems that weak ADs get taken in with the notion that there are so few options on the table. That definitely happened with Alleva when he chose Orgeron after striking out on one guy.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:45 am to misey94
its hard to really convince people from outside of the program to honestly interview after what just happened
this is a shite show and an awful look on the program and i bet a lot of people who would otherwise be interested might be pullling back now
this is a shite show and an awful look on the program and i bet a lot of people who would otherwise be interested might be pullling back now
Posted on 11/26/23 at 1:01 am to Dr RC
I think when folks saw the price tag on Stoops is when it went real south
Posted on 11/26/23 at 9:22 am to WestCoastAg
Not going to aTm =\= Staying at Kentucky
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