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re: LSU's dogshit defense allows 408.5 YPG. The "great" Mel Tucker's MSU defense gives up 406

Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
21078 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:23 pm to
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They are 19th in points


Yeah, they are top 20 in scoring and yds/play.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:24 pm to
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Yeah, they are top 20 in scoring and yds/play.



This sounds pretty good
Posted by DeathvalleyU
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2015
1275 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:24 pm to
You think if LSU gives up 400 yards a game next season whoever the coach is gets a pass because he didn't recruit the talent?
Posted by BayouBoogie
San Francisco, CA
Member since Nov 2017
1110 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:28 pm to
There’s talent already here that’s not being utilized properly. I think there will be an adjust period if Tucker goes back to the 3-4 defense. Also, he’s in a rich recruiting area unlike Michigan State.

Are you comparing MSU roster to LSUs?
Posted by Ocardowin
Member since Dec 2011
1345 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:32 pm to
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He literally came with Kirby from Alabama in 2016. Try again.


Georgia pre-Tucker (points allowed):

2014 - 16th
2015 - 8th

With Tucker:

2016 - 36th
2017 - 6th
2018 - 15th

Post tucker:

2019 - 1st
2020 - 17th
2021 - 1st

I think you need to check your data.
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
5635 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:35 pm to
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Are you comparing MSU roster to LSUs?


Are you comparing MSU's opponents to LSU's? While LSU may have more talent, so do its opponents to date. Conversely, MSU may have modest talent, but so have its awful opponents to date. The point is that coaching against equivalent talent, the MSU defense has given up approximately the same amount as LSU.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:38 pm to
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This sounds pretty good


What if I told you their 4 conference opponents they have played so far have a combined conference record of 2-16?

We will soon learn if MSU is legit or fool’s gold.
Posted by BayouBoogie
San Francisco, CA
Member since Nov 2017
1110 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:41 pm to
Yes, I am comparing MSU opponents to LSUs. I believe they have the toughest SOS remaining. Tucker’s candidacy for the LSU job should be contingent on how he finishes the remainder of the season.

Notable Remaining Games:
Ohio State
Michigan
Purdue
Penn State
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
21078 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:50 pm to
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You think if LSU gives up 400 yards a game next season whoever the coach is gets a pass because he didn't recruit the talent?
If he’s also only allowing 2 TDs a game, yes.
Posted by BayouBoogie
San Francisco, CA
Member since Nov 2017
1110 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:28 pm to
This didn’t prove anything. In 2016, they took over a bad Richt team finished ranked 36th, this was a rebuild year. The next year they were in the championship game with the 6th rated defense.

What did you try to prove here? I hope you understand that there’s a lot more nuance to the game than where a team is defensively rated at the end of the year.
Posted by AcetheTigah
Woodlands, TX
Member since Jan 2005
249 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:41 pm to
He pulls off some big wins then he will get a close look. But can he recruit? I watched some of his press conferences and interviews. Very soft spoken and flat. Not the most motivational speaker.
Posted by BayouBoogie
San Francisco, CA
Member since Nov 2017
1110 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:50 pm to
Nah he’s pretty animated behind the scenes.

Mel Tucker Mic’d Up

Tucker Mic’d up Colorado Team Meeting

Mel Tucker’s 247 Recruiter Profile
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 10:56 pm
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
172318 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:56 pm to
Ensminger’s “wtf are we even doing” offense damn near dropped a 40 piece on that defense

Yuck
Posted by G&P
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2013
2429 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 1:35 am to
Oh, hell no. Tucker is about to get exposed.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61475 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 1:40 am to
If I were an LSU fan biggest issue I would have w/Tucker is how he can't be trusted to stick around. If he has any success he'll leave for the NFL as fast as he can the exact same way he was did to Colorado when he left a booster event where he was telling everyone how much he loved CU and immediately flew to Michigan State w/o even giving them a chance to match.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79429 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 1:44 am to
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Ensminger’s “wtf are we even doing” offense damn near dropped a 40 piece on that defense


We kicked a frick ton of FG though and their offense wasn’t doing anything but giving us good field Position.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
3002 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 6:57 am to
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He didn’t recruit this team. He’s actually running a variation of the 4-3 because of the personnel he was left with. He a 3-4 coach

Excuses excuses excuses. The diversity crowd just won’t let Tucker go. He’s no defense genius. Woodward would a fool and fired if hires this guy.
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 6:59 am
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
3002 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 7:12 am to
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Nah he’s pretty animated behind the scenes.

Orgeron’s animated behind the scenes. Tucker would be a horrible hire.
Posted by BayouBoogie
San Francisco, CA
Member since Nov 2017
1110 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:36 am to
Did you even watch the Mic’d up clips? O is animated period, that’s all he is. Two completely different coaches
Posted by BayouBoogie
San Francisco, CA
Member since Nov 2017
1110 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:40 am to
His defense has given up 14 TDs in 7 games. Again, if he finishes the season strong it’s his job to lose
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