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re: LSU Coaching Search Update, per the good guys over at 247
Posted on 11/15/21 at 12:55 pm to mattytiger123
Posted on 11/15/21 at 12:55 pm to mattytiger123
Please no Jimbo or Tucker. Please.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 12:56 pm to DmitriKaramazov
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Absolute fricking inanity. Woodward is mentally deficient if he actually believes this.
hold up....im not a tucker guy...but can you not see where woody is coming from???
1) reputation for working crazy amount
2) good recruiter
3) reputation for being very very detail oriented
improved Colorodo in year 1...gets MSU job...covid hits (remember covid was different up there arse tons of restrictions in Michigan)....1st real year he remakes the roster through the use of the portal and some his recruiting to the point they are ranked in the top 10 and have a top 10 matchup with Ohio state this weekend.
Do i think he wins...no, but dude is prolly going to end up 10-2 in his second year.
sure his record in his first years trying to remake Colorodo and MSU arent good, but damn the man has shown he can in year 2 thats for sure.
no im not pushing tucker, in fact i think he stays and tells us no as alluded to in the article.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 12:57 pm to lsu777
this is my personal opinion
Pretty much who i thought and were I thought each lined up. Here is my personal opinion on how things shake out
1) Riley- ends up staying at OU, doesnt get a raise but gets more commitments like he got in the new facilities, this time for staff.
2) Jimbo- stays at A&M
3) Tucker- Rumors he has told staff to get comfortable, personally i think he absolutely stays and gets a big deal and bump in salary, but most importantly I think he gets MSU to join the arms race and gets a huge commitment for facilities.
4) Aranda- personally outside of Riley, who i do not think is realistic, he is my #1. The thing I like best about Dave.....young coach who comes in and has a terrible first year....so what does he do? He makes big changes. He is the one that has the self awareness to do that. Rare trait that seperates Saban and even someone like Kirby from guys like Mullen. He left a ton of points on the board last year coaching like a DC instead of a HC....he changed. List goes on and on. Stupid impressive. People are going to be concerned about his recruiting and the #44 class last year and the #32 this year. Some of that is due to not being able to build the relationships due to covid. but if you go back and look, that #32 is up there with the better classes Baylor has signed. There is not a single coach, outside of saban, that i trust more to hire an OC. He struggled with that his first year, but corrected it and hit a huge grand slam. The loss to TCU was concerning but it also after 2 huge wins and sandwiched between the UT & OU games, also TCU was playing with tons of emotion. He made mistakes in that game, but in year 2, a coach will have those kinds of games just due to the overall lack of time of having his cultured installed.
5) Napier- he is my personal #4 candidate. I have some concerns over his playcalling it would like to see him give up the actual in game play calling. But overall one cant help but be impressed at what he has done at ULL. The total buy in of everyone around the program is absolutely impress and i love the willingness to work around disadvantages. The recruitment of volunteers to positions they could not afford to staff, the buy in on the overall view of the program is insane. Him and Aranda are very very much cut from the same cloth. Lots of self awareness. Many of the LSU fans watch the ULL games and see the continuous 4th down calls as gambles when they are anything but. In his first year he lost a ton of games where he left a lot of points on the board, so what does he do? As soon as the season ended, he went and met with an expiert on analytics in football. He studied the data and changed his mindset. To me this is huge, just like aranda, he has shown enough self awareness to make the changes and understand where the game is headed.
6) franklin- as much as I am a anyone but franklin guy I do realize the huge huge huge disadvantage when it comes to facilities. I am talking pre saban type facilities at LSU level, its bad bad, like not top 50 in the counrty, maybe not top 75. But in the end at PSU he 25-24 in conference when he doesnt have moorehead and is absolutely headed in the wrong direction overall. Take away the Moorehead years and he is under 500 in conference between PSU and Vandy. Was hated at Vandy and the getting into it with fans and hiding from fans stuff turns me off big time.
7) Kiffin- personal opinion he is the #1 OC in the nation, pretending to be a HC. I think he lacks overall self awareness and doesnt have an eye for attention to detail. This is seen in his record. He will have a good year, followed by ho hum/bad year. This has been his MO at USC where he was not good, great, not good, fired in 4 seasons. at FAU...great, bad, great.....at OM....bad, great....???(i predict return to .500 after he losses corral)
**i dont think we can get cristobal, dabo, brian kelly, or even campbell so they are all out imo.
in the end i think it comes down to options #4 and #5. Aranda takes USC to raise his kids near his and his wife's parents and to go back home with the promise of being the 1st hispanic to be HC at USC in a city that is almost 50% hispanic. We then go to Napier. and no im not pushing napier lol.
Pretty much who i thought and were I thought each lined up. Here is my personal opinion on how things shake out
1) Riley- ends up staying at OU, doesnt get a raise but gets more commitments like he got in the new facilities, this time for staff.
2) Jimbo- stays at A&M
3) Tucker- Rumors he has told staff to get comfortable, personally i think he absolutely stays and gets a big deal and bump in salary, but most importantly I think he gets MSU to join the arms race and gets a huge commitment for facilities.
4) Aranda- personally outside of Riley, who i do not think is realistic, he is my #1. The thing I like best about Dave.....young coach who comes in and has a terrible first year....so what does he do? He makes big changes. He is the one that has the self awareness to do that. Rare trait that seperates Saban and even someone like Kirby from guys like Mullen. He left a ton of points on the board last year coaching like a DC instead of a HC....he changed. List goes on and on. Stupid impressive. People are going to be concerned about his recruiting and the #44 class last year and the #32 this year. Some of that is due to not being able to build the relationships due to covid. but if you go back and look, that #32 is up there with the better classes Baylor has signed. There is not a single coach, outside of saban, that i trust more to hire an OC. He struggled with that his first year, but corrected it and hit a huge grand slam. The loss to TCU was concerning but it also after 2 huge wins and sandwiched between the UT & OU games, also TCU was playing with tons of emotion. He made mistakes in that game, but in year 2, a coach will have those kinds of games just due to the overall lack of time of having his cultured installed.
5) Napier- he is my personal #4 candidate. I have some concerns over his playcalling it would like to see him give up the actual in game play calling. But overall one cant help but be impressed at what he has done at ULL. The total buy in of everyone around the program is absolutely impress and i love the willingness to work around disadvantages. The recruitment of volunteers to positions they could not afford to staff, the buy in on the overall view of the program is insane. Him and Aranda are very very much cut from the same cloth. Lots of self awareness. Many of the LSU fans watch the ULL games and see the continuous 4th down calls as gambles when they are anything but. In his first year he lost a ton of games where he left a lot of points on the board, so what does he do? As soon as the season ended, he went and met with an expiert on analytics in football. He studied the data and changed his mindset. To me this is huge, just like aranda, he has shown enough self awareness to make the changes and understand where the game is headed.
6) franklin- as much as I am a anyone but franklin guy I do realize the huge huge huge disadvantage when it comes to facilities. I am talking pre saban type facilities at LSU level, its bad bad, like not top 50 in the counrty, maybe not top 75. But in the end at PSU he 25-24 in conference when he doesnt have moorehead and is absolutely headed in the wrong direction overall. Take away the Moorehead years and he is under 500 in conference between PSU and Vandy. Was hated at Vandy and the getting into it with fans and hiding from fans stuff turns me off big time.
7) Kiffin- personal opinion he is the #1 OC in the nation, pretending to be a HC. I think he lacks overall self awareness and doesnt have an eye for attention to detail. This is seen in his record. He will have a good year, followed by ho hum/bad year. This has been his MO at USC where he was not good, great, not good, fired in 4 seasons. at FAU...great, bad, great.....at OM....bad, great....???(i predict return to .500 after he losses corral)
**i dont think we can get cristobal, dabo, brian kelly, or even campbell so they are all out imo.
in the end i think it comes down to options #4 and #5. Aranda takes USC to raise his kids near his and his wife's parents and to go back home with the promise of being the 1st hispanic to be HC at USC in a city that is almost 50% hispanic. We then go to Napier. and no im not pushing napier lol.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 12:58 pm to lsu777
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no im not pushing tucker, in fact i think he stays and tells us no as alluded to in the article.
Can’t say I blame him.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 12:59 pm to sheeeeeit
Texas 2 for 2 saving LSU from themselves
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:00 pm to jbraua
Where was Jay Johnson ranked on their baseball coaches search list?
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:03 pm to jbraua
I’m hard-pressed to believe any rumor that has Napier ranked ahead of Aranda
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:07 pm to WilsonPickett
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Where was Jay Johnson ranked on their baseball coaches search list?
i dont remember but the guys at 247 are just summing up what the big boosters are telling them, nothing more. They are not going to do a bunch of coaching search stuff at they have to ride a fine line and cant have things coming back and biting them in the arse and cutting off access.
after though they and many others confirmed the following
1) the deal with O'sullivan was done until something popped up on the back ground...LSU asked for more time and O'sullivan said frick off.
2) he wanted Casey...but BOT told him to frick off and no.
3) Corbin was approached, had conversations but eventually said no thanks.
4) Bianco was always known the be the in the box fall back option similar to jimbo(imo) and was back burnered to make talk to other candidates first.
5) Johnson was the one they approached after 1st 3 said no. it was just to kind of kick the tires and he blew them away that they essentially told Bianco to kick rocks.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:08 pm to Ocardowin
Napier befor Jimbo. Jimbo is trash
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:08 pm to jbraua
quote:
Cooling off:
Peterson
Franklin
Sark
O'brie
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:09 pm to lsu777
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1) the deal with O'sullivan was done until something popped up on the back ground...LSU asked for more time and O'sullivan said frick off. 2) he wanted Casey...but BOT told him to frick off and no. 3) Corbin was approached, had conversations but eventually said no thanks. 4) Bianco was always known the be the in the box fall back option similar to jimbo(imo) and was back burnered to make talk to other candidates first. 5) Johnson was the one they approached after 1st 3 said no. it was just to kind of kick the tires and he blew them away that they essentially told Bianco to kick rocks.
I'm very surprised O'Donnell, O'Connor and Vitello were not considered or interviewed
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:09 pm to lsu777
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improved Colorodo in year 1...gets MSU job...covid hits (remember covid was different up there arse tons of restrictions in Michigan)....1st real year he remakes the roster through the use of the portal and some his recruiting to the point they are ranked in the top 10 and have a top 10 matchup with Ohio state this weekend.
Do i think he wins...no, but dude is prolly going to end up 10-2 in his second year.
sure his record in his first years trying to remake Colorodo and MSU arent good, but damn the man has shown he can in year 2 thats for sure.
no im not pushing tucker, in fact i think he stays and tells us no as alluded to in the article.
Sigh. He did not "improve" Colorado. That simply never happened. He went 5-7, the same as his predecessor. Colorado's defensive rankings declined under his watch. Same at MSU, defensive rankings have declined every year, including this one. Will decline further after OSU. The man has one winning season as a HC. He was 5-7 and 2-5 in the last two years. He was terrible as an NFL DC. He's had no consistent success anywhere in his career. Zero. Completely unqualified to become LSU's coach. Should never hire someone based on a single outlier year. Too high risk and too stupid.
I don't have the energy to keep educating our fanbase on the actual facts of Tuckers career, so just read this post:
LINK
And this one, giving further details on his historic embarrassments as Bears DC:
LINK
Historical performance cannot be denied. He is a mediocre coach at best.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:11 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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I’m hard-pressed to believe any rumor that has Napier ranked ahead of Aranda
he isnt. it was just that boosters felt they were in the same catagory and napier has shot up the list more than aranda.
some of yall read way way too much into things.
in the end its what we all know
1) riley
2) jimbo
3) tucker
next group is aranda and napier
fickel and rhule are essentially going to be knows, same with campbell.
franklin was interviewed and he turned everyone off.
kiffin is a no on our end
its the same shite that has been said on here a million times.
all comes down to...do we think we can gt riley, jimbo or even tucker.
if all say no, can we get Aranda...if not it goes to Napier.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:12 pm to Magician2
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Vitello
from what i remember they said he pretty much played us for a raise and nothing was every serious.
im working off memory on both post so dont shoot me if a little detail is off.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:12 pm to DmitriKaramazov
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:14 pm to jbraua
Don't want Fickell, Tucker, or Jimbo. Glad to see my three favorites in there Aranda, Napier and Riley. The first three I mentioned would be lateral hires especially Fickell and Tucker at least Jimbo has skins on the wall.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:15 pm to burke985
Riley
Aranda
These two should be who we are going after. Napier is the fallback.
Period
Aranda
These two should be who we are going after. Napier is the fallback.
Period
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:16 pm to burke985
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Don't want Fickell, Tucker, or Jimbo. Glad to see my three favorites in there Aranda, Napier and Riley. The first three I mentioned would be lateral hires especially Fickell and Tucker at least Jimbo has skins on the wall.
How is Fickell a lateral move but not Napier.
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