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re: Looking back: why did Miles hire crowton?

Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:59 am to
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:59 am to
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why did Miles hire crowton?
Ryan. Perrilloux.


You may have a good point there

And Russell Shepard being recruited would add to that.. Or so they thought?
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 11:00 am to
Oregon did dink and dunk auburn all game

Thomas threw for over 400 yards...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 11:02 am to
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I never thought he was brought in to run the spread specifically. I think he was brought in as a multiple set guy.

crowton has been running his spread since 1998

he only very recently incorporated option. 2005/2006

he never showed he could coach/scheme/call option plays

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JJ just forced us to go more spread over the last couple of years.

lee ran a lot of spread in 2008

the coaches have tried to mold JJ from a passing QB to a running QB b/c he's fast. they've had...mixed results
Posted by lsutiger2
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 11:07 am to
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wonder about this as well.

I also wonder if in 07, Crowton had total control, and following the 08 debacle, Miles stepped in.

I have noticed this too. The problem with Gary Crowton is his ability to adapt his offense and qb development.

When it comes down to breaking down a defense and calling plays Crowton is very good IMO. He just needs Flynn/Steve Young running his offense.
This post was edited on 1/14/11 at 11:12 am
Posted by xLxSxUxFxAxNx
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 11:07 am to
do you not understand or just not paying attention to the team back then.

just a detail needed to answer the question.
Posted by cnote
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 11:11 am to
quote:

quote:
I never thought he was brought in to run the spread specifically. I think he was brought in as a multiple set guy.


crowton has been running his spread since 1998

he only very recently incorporated option. 2005/2006

he never showed he could coach/scheme/call option plays

quote:
JJ just forced us to go more spread over the last couple of years.


lee ran a lot of spread in 2008

the coaches have tried to mold JJ from a passing QB to a running QB b/c he's fast. they've had...mixed results


I can buy most of that.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 11:14 am to
People really dont understand...when Miles was hired here, he didn't want Jimbo Fisher as his OC. He wanted Gary Crowton. Crowton was at the very top of his list.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 11:16 am to
One of the reasons Jimbo left, because he and Miles didn't get along
Posted by RANDY44
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 11:39 am to
First of all, Crowton is very respected in the coaching community nationally. Second, he had shown to be very adaptable during his time as an NFL OC. The Bears were a run-first team and he certainly had to curb his tendancies to open things up while there. Did he clash with Miles, yes but they still won a national title together, thanks in large part to having two QB's who were adept at running multiple style offenses. After RP left and the inept defense forced a too-wide-open offense to be run by freshmen, Les got more heavily involved in the play-calling to rein in GC. That is a known fact. Crowton will probably do well in the ACC providing they can steer enough QB talent into Maryland.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 11:42 am to
After we lost 7-3 to Auburn not many tiger fans liked him either.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 11:45 am to
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do you not understand or just not paying attention to the team back then.

just a detail needed to answer the question.


Huh?
Posted by MFV
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 1:20 pm to
Everyone says les is pro style pound it guy but I seem to remember okie state running a lot of spread during his time there with the woods brothers. Maybe Les wanted to move us towards the spread offense?
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 1:21 pm to
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Looking back: why did Miles hire crowton?
Honestly, Two completely opposite styles and philosophy..
A lot of us were thinking the same thing when they announced the hire

It didn't seem to make sense
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 1:23 pm to
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It didn't seem to make sense


No, it didn't.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 1:25 pm to
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with my vast knowledge of just about everything...the less important things get forced out and there's not much room left


if i remember correctly, i have the exact same problem.
Posted by DVtiger
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 3:00 pm to
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Looking back: why did Miles hire crowton?
..like some other things, the answer is Bill McCartney
Posted by jack6294
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 3:03 pm to
Louisiana ties & supposedly high profile offense
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 3:13 pm to
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high profile offense


But yet it clashed with miles...
Posted by RPC4LSU
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 3:15 pm to
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One of the reasons Jimbo left

he was told he would be head coach whem Bowden retired.
Posted by ZTiger87
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 4:17 pm to
Crowton was brought in because he showed he could adapt his offense at Oregon from a more pass first QB in Clemens to more of a running QB Dixon. Yeah, Dixon fell apart at the end of 06, but they still had the 9th ranked offense and Dixon did look good under Crowton in a lot of games. He also showed he could incorporate some power runners like Jonathan Stewart and Jeremiah Johnson into his offense. This is exactly what we needed going from Flynn to Ryan P.

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crowton has been running his spread since 1998

he only very recently incorporated option. 2005/2006


He ran option plays at BYU.

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the coaches have tried to mold JJ from a passing QB to a running QB b/c he's fast. they've had...mixed results


Agreed. Then again, JJ proved to be not much of a passing QB this year.
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