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List of Possibilities to replace Coach JJ

Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:35 pm
Posted by Woodman
Seattle WA
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:35 pm
Youth Movement - Age / Record

Mitch Henderson, Princeton 41 / 104-59
Matt McCall, Chattanooga 34 / 42-10
Dave Richman, North Dakota State 38 / 54-28
Bashir Mason, Wagner 32 / 77-63
Pat Kelsey, Winthrop 41 / 88-56
Ryan Odom, Maryland Baltimore County 42 / 42-25
Earl Grant, College of Charleston 40 / 38-42
George Dooley, Florida Gulf Coast 50 / 146-100

Longshots - Age / Record

Chris Collins, Northwestern 42 / 62-52
Randy Bennett, St Mary’s 54 / 328-148
Archie Miller, Dayton 38 / 138-62

This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 10:38 pm
Posted by Andy Bernard
Cornell University
Member since Apr 2016
1742 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:42 pm to
John Wooden, Coach K, Bobby Knight, Jim Boeheim, Cal, Williams, and Izzo
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5740 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:43 pm to
Stansbury
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8534 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:51 pm to
If we are serious about improving the program, you offer Archie Miller enough to make him think about it before telling you no. If he does, Kermit Davis and Rick Stansbury would both take the job and be a massive improvement.
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 10:52 pm
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37136 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:52 pm to
Finally some realistic options posted. Nice list. I like McCall
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37136 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:53 pm to
Archie Miller isn't taking this job, even if we offer him $1.75. Dayton is a better job than LSU right now.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:59 pm to
Bobby Sibley
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 11:00 pm to
Archie Miller intrigues me.

I wouldn't hate Stansbury like some would. Kermit Davis would come here, I'm sure.

I still think if Iowa State has a disappointing season and Hoiberg gets fired in Chicago, the dominos could fall for Steve Prohm to land here.
Posted by Andy Bernard
Cornell University
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 11:25 pm to
quote:

Bobby Sibley


Posted by Mouthulcer
Metairie
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:13 am to


I would go with Kazaam. He is an alumis so he checks that box. He can grant Alleva 3 wishes. No way he can mess that up.

Also, what kid wouldn't want to play under Kazaam?
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 2:14 am
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32969 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:00 am to
I want us to seriously look at Dana Ford. I know he's not on staff and won't be brought to Alleva on a silver platter, so it likely won't happen. Best odds are that we get Randy Livingston.
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:03 am to
How about the guy at Monmouth? He's done a great job
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155716 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:34 am to
My sauces told me that Collins was Joe's guy before he let Dale, Collis, and Clarence do his job for him. (Reggie Theus = GOAT smokescreen)

They can hire Quin Snyder if they like. LSU Basketball is dead to me. I haven't watched more than a minute of CBB this year.
Posted by TigerOne
Member since Sep 2007
1944 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:48 am to
Is there a Cajun basketball coach around? He would be "one of us".
Posted by Woodman
Seattle WA
Member since Aug 2009
1935 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:05 am to
Ryan Odom intrigues me with his background - he is the son of Dave Odom; so I can imagine he learned how to be a coach from a young age.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:20 am to
Bashir Mason is underachieveing BIG TIME at Wagner this year. They were picked as a runaway favorite in their very very weak conference and even then are in the middle of the pack
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14930 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:21 am to
quote:

Archie Miller isn't taking this job, even if we offer him $1.75. Dayton is a better job than LSU right now.


Dayton is better...but $1.75? No, you throw $2-2.5 and see what he says. Is Dayton a better job? Yep, does it have the long term ability LSU has? No. LSU is a sleeping giant in basketball. We have shown many times we can compete with anyone talent wise.

I don't have the raw numbers, but I would guess off the top of my head LSU has way more players in the NBA than at Dayton.
Posted by FlappingPierre
St. George
Member since Nov 2013
4400 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:07 am to
Anyone without an LSU connection
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28383 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:24 am to
I think by now, this is legitimately worth talking about. The party is over on the Jones era. Just ask the players.

My thoughts from the thread on The Rant:

Alleva's list would be:

Jay Wright
Gregg Marshall

Then once he became offended at the audacity of those coaches asking for HUGE salaries, he would go hire David Patrick back from TCU and hope he has some other all-world Godchild in some foreign country.

Everyone would love Bill Self, Gregg Marshall, etc, but I think the list has to be guys who might REALISTICALLY consider the LSU job. This isn't a bad job at all. There are many good players just in the TX/LA/MS tri-state area alone. The right guy could win, and win quickly at LSU. Once that happens, the fans will come back. If LSU fans are willing to pack the PMAC for women's basketball (in the Sue/Pokey days) and gymnastics because those teams are ranked highly, they will certainly show up for Men's basketball if they can consistently win.

I think a realistic list could include:

Steve Prohm (Iowa St.) - Bama grad; coached in LA as an assistant for 7 years. Recruits the state and his top recruiter is from Mississippi. Early 40's. He's at the "little brother" school in a state not necessarily known for pumping out top athletic talent. Plus he's in a brutal conf. Maybe he wants to get back down south where he could have an easier job with less expectations, especially if Fred Hoiberg gets fired by the Bulls. Is paid about $1.5 mill. Certainly LSU should be able to increase that since they are already paying $1.5 mill for the garbage Jones puts out.

Buzz Williams (Va Tech) - Very successful at Marquette and has started to turn VT around. Curious why he would he would leave a very successful MU to go to a never-has-been in VT. Still, he's relatively young. He's a TX native with some ties to LA. A big personality. He would immediately work to regain fan interest a la Bruce Pearl. The ACC is a slaughterhouse, especially when you are at the #2 school in a state where the flagship (UVA) has become a consistent power.

Mike White (Florida) - Doesn't seem likely that he would make a jump seemingly "down" from UF to LSU, but he's a NOLA guy who had great success in this state (La. Tech). Just like it won't be easy for the guy who follows Saban at Bama, it's hard to follow a legend in Billy Donovan. He can come home to Louisiana and not have to be judged against unreal success of Donovan. Basically he is in a Les Miles position -- really good is not good enough over there.

Richard Pitino (Minnesota) - Very young (34) but obviously has the name recognition and hopefully the family pedigree. Has struggled at Minn., but seems to maybe be finding his footing this season. You could argue it may be easier to get players at LSU than Minn. Still, it's obviously a risk because there is no guarantee he would ever be as good a coach as his dad and the results haven't been outstanding.

Will Wade (VCU) - another very young guy (34), but he has had good success at Chattanooga and now at VCU. A southern guy (Nashville native) who is known as a pretty good recruiter as well as coach. VCU has certainly become a very good job, but you'd have to believe LSU can outbid any salary they could put out there.

Chris Collins (Northwestern) - Son of Doug Collins and Coach K protege (which hasn't always equaled results). He's taken a graveyard program in Northwestern and started to make them competitive in the Big 10. The worry would always be that Duke is the dream job as Coach K can't have too many years left, but he may be willing to leave NU because, quite frankly, coaching there is like trying to swim with one arm tied behind your back. No matter how much effort you exert, there's only so much you can do

Kermit Davis (MTSU) - One of John Brady's early assistants. Knows LSU and has done a good job at MTSU. Would almost assuredly take the LSU job if offered. Still, despite good success, he's been at MTSU for a long time, which makes you wonder why no other power schools have tried to grab him. There have been plenty of SEC jobs come open during his time at MTSU, including Vandy and Tenn., and Davis never seemed to be a big player. Is he just a slightly better Johnny Jones?

Rick Stansbury (WKU) - Probably a little under-appreciated at MSU, but had some very good years there. Obviously knows how to recruit LA/MS/TX. He would walk to BR to be LSU's HC. Still, is a SEC re-tread the direction we want to go? No question he would be better than Jones, but there seems to be a pretty clear ceiling for him as well.


Personally, Williams would be my first call in that group. I think he would do really well recruiting TX and LA and would generate some excitement among the fans almost immediately. He took over a dump of a program in Va. Tech and in year 3 has turned them into a player in the ultra-competitive ACC. That was after a 6 year run at Marquette in the then brutal Big East which saw two Sweet 16 appearances and one Elite 8 appearance. He could do a GREAT job at VT and still only finish in the middle of the ACC with teams like Duke, UNC, Louisville, UVA, Notre Dame, Syracuse, almost always in national contention. It would be much, MUCH, easier to win in the SEC which consist of one powerhouse (UK) and 13 other programs that can vary anywhere from decent to bad depending on the year.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 10:28 am
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158763 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:24 am to
yeah if you want archie you're going to have to suck it up and make a really aggressive offer, pay him more than what he's worth on paper or you can continue to let apathy sink in and bring Kermit on in.

so since its alleva, the safe money is on Kermit.
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