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re: LACK OF CONTROL fuels your FEAR which creates your ANXIETY

Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

You do not know what you don't know.

Here's what I know: I want LSU to win.

I also know that I'll mock Alleva relentlessly, because he's a bungling fool who should be mocked and ridiculed. For as long as I'm on this site, I'll laugh at the "IN" .gif, smokescreen references and any future mention of the "insiders."
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6676 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:24 pm to
When did we get a Psych board?
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85188 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:35 pm to
I'm explaining You to You. You can send me a check if you want to, but I'd prefer if you just look up the term "EXPECTANCY SHIFTS" and ponder where your expectations of failure originated (probably Les Miles) and realize that neither Coach O or you are locked into them. I just went through this same scenario with about 500 sweater-vest Republicans suffering from "Trump is destroying the party syndrome". And now these same guys are wondering why they melted down and called their friends names every day for months.

Your fear is creating your anxiety.
Step back.
Exhale. Relax. Wait. See.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464971 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:36 pm to
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You are suffering from learned helplessness from the Miles years.

no my expectations are the same

O is an inferior version of Miles

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You have already projected a specific number of losses onto LSU 2017 and beyond. That's your anxiety talking. It's your internal fears expressed aloud.

would you like to put money on this? i'm not scared to do so. will your internal fears express themselves aloud and lead you to avoid agreeing to the bet?
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85188 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:47 pm to
Joshie, your fear is diminishing you. Your anxiety is palpable. You are dangerously close to lapsing into SJW-football style territory now. Nothing but entitlement, fear, anxiety, and emotional melt.

Oh Joshie. I hate to see it. You were making such progress. I had such great hope for you.

LSU is gonna wreck shite in 2017. It's gonna wreck you.







Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33237 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:49 pm to
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LACK OF CONTROL

This is the key in your statement, but not for the fans. For the program

Fisher and Herman wanted Saban/Meyer/Harbaugh control, and Alleva was to petty to agree

He caved because of his fear and anxiety
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464971 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:50 pm to
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Joshie, your fear is diminishing you. Your anxiety is palpable. You are dangerously close to lapsing into SJW-football style territory now. Nothing but entitlement, fear, anxiety, and emotional melt.

what are you talking about?

i know what makes football coaches elite. O is not that. it's that simple

i'm not "Scared" of anything. i'm lulzing at the joke that LSU is right now

O could theoretically maintain a stable 3-4 loss program if our budget allows him to always have the top coordinators and he doesn't frick them up (which is possible). O simply does not have the brainpower to make LSU an elite program (esp since we're in the SEC West)
Posted by SpookeyTiger
Williamsburg, MO
Member since Jan 2012
3607 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:52 pm to
We'll end up with Kiffin and Bama will get Kingsbury.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:55 pm to
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First, I love ya man. Nothing personal. But Jimbo and Herman didn't want the gig.


Youre wrong, man! Youre fricking wrong. Dont start this shite! Everyones starting this shite. It was Alleva. It was ALWAYS Alleva....

What REALLY happened
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61780 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:58 pm to
when you hire executives, you never do anything other than hire the best available person for the job.

You never take a "let's see what happens" approach. It's stupid.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60594 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:59 pm to
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LACK OF CONTROL fuels your FEAR which creates your ANXIETY
you should put this in an enter to Alleva.

He keeps hiring flunked yes men
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6653 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 1:59 pm to
Solid advice.

Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85188 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:00 pm to
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i know what makes football coaches elite. O is not that. it's that simple


The "elite" coach you covet lost to Navy Memphis and SMU in the last two months. Is that what made him elite? Your opinion that he is elite has not yet been proven, wouldn't you agree? You are speculating, right?

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i'm not "Scared" of anything. i'm lulzing at the joke that LSU is right now


There is ONE school that has the conclusive upper hand on LSU. We aren't "a joke". You are just highly sensitive to what the haters say . We kept a Coach at least a year too long. And nobody wants the gig. And this is what happens. We hire a guy that some like and some don't.
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O could theoretically maintain a stable 3-4 loss program if our budget allows him to always have the top coordinators and he doesn't frick them up (which is possible). O simply does not have the brainpower to make LSU an elite program (esp since we're in the SEC West)


You don't know that. Your assertions and assumptions are not fact.
Your fear-based approach is betraying your rationality.

Deep. Breath. Relax. Wait. And. See.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464971 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:06 pm to
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Is that what made him elite?

no being smart as frick and trained under a top 5 all time CFB coach makes him elite. further, he's heavily involved in one side of the ball, detail oriented, and understands the value of recruiting

and Herman is irrelevant. if we can't get Herman we move on to #2. O is about option 75 so there is a huge gap and plenty of candidates to look at

Coach O has never even run a defense before. he has been a head coach before and it was an utter disaster. he has not gotten a sniff from any program since that time. he's never even gotten to run a defense.

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We aren't "a joke".

we just hired a coach that Syracuse passed on very recently

we just hire da guy that our very fanbase mocked endlessly for years

our AD threw a temper tantrum like a 15 year old girl b/c he wanted to be lazy and had no developed plan

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And nobody wants the gig

how do we know? our coaching list consisted of 2 guys and a backup plan

tons of coaches between fisher/Herman and O. we have no clue how the 70 or so coaches in that gap would have reacted because Alleva didn't try to find other options or interview anyone. it was Herman, Jimbo, or O. that's it. that's a joke

quote:

You don't know that.

yes i do

he's never been trusted to run a defense b/c he's not capable

he's been a HC before and was historically bad

no program has sniffed him as a HC since b/c of these issues

hell no program has let him even run a defense b/c of these issues

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Your fear-based approach is betraying your rationality.

what is fearful about looking at results and actual reality?
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3713 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:11 pm to
Assuming your post is not some sort of psycho-babble troll, I can tell you have never given anyone legal advice or negotiated a large business transaction. LSU fans have every right to be upset not just with the result (Coach O as HC, OC to be named later, Elite DC not nailed down), but with the process - who was contacted, the duration of the negotiations, etc.

I'm not "anxious" or "fearful" because of the hire. I'm simply upset with administration for how unprofessionally it handled the Miles firing mid-season only to hand the job to its DL coach after only a week of negotiations with 2 candidates.

Assuming you are a licensed psychologist, what is your experience regarding how your clients react when they know you are patronizing them?
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85188 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:18 pm to
Joshie, I've discussed Coach O's attributes at length on other threads. And for the record, I was riding for Herman. But I categorically reject the premise that preserving the continuity of this great staff, hiring Kiffin or another great O coordinator, under the leadership of Coach O is the catastrophe you believe it to be.

But I acknowledge your fear and anxiety and hope that you are able to resolve them to your satisfaction. In the meantime, as a friend, I advise you to take a deep breath, consider your humble place in The Universe,and take the mature wait and see approach.

Or melt down like the special little snowflake that apparantly resides within you, raging against reality, imagining horrors that have not yet occurred, and warning others of impending doom if reality does not bend to your delicate sensibilities.

SFP and SJW. Turn back. Embrace reality. Get over yourself. It's not too late.

Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:26 pm to
The problem with CEO is you cant have a head coach that isnt an offensive or defensive genius. That means you constantly have to hire the next big thing on BOTH sides of the ball and when they have success, they leave for their own HC position. Thats creates a revolving door at BOTH coordinating positions and a constant scramble to replace them every 3-4 years. Lots of instability and the players constantly having to learn a new offense/defense.

This concept is both easy to understand and true.
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
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85188 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 2:32 pm to
I think that's a valid point. But lots of "geniuses" have failed as well and "program managers" have succeeded. Every situation is a world unto itself.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

I think that's a valid point. But lots of "geniuses" have failed as well and "program managers" have succeeded. Every situation is a world unto itself.


No doubt but I think there are far fewer long-term successful teams with "program managers". I cant think of any actually. Nearly all long tenured successful HCs have their fingerprints on one side of the ball or the other and as a result are able to maintain either a consistent defense or offense through many coordinator changes over the years. When they are able to get a good coordinator to compliment their strengths on the other side of the ball and haul in a few good recruiting classes then you see them win a bunch of games.
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 8:31 pm
Posted by jamalsdeck
Member since Jul 2016
2818 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 8:37 pm to
Yup

Bama would be happy to see O and Kiffin

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