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Jimmy Sexton seems to be stopping SEC hirings who they want
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:23 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:23 am
Is Jimmy Sexton manipulating the SEC hires because of his bigger client, Saban? It seems to me if money talks like we all think, then why have teams like
LSU, Fla, Tenn, Ark, South Carolina lately end up with plan B or C?
I know some coaches would rather win at any place than compete in the SEC. But coaches usually have an ego that pushes them.
It's hard to believe big money schools with great facilities in the SEC have such a difficult time hiring who they target. Jimmy Sexton
seems to be the constant in these coaching search's and disappointments.
LSU, Fla, Tenn, Ark, South Carolina lately end up with plan B or C?
I know some coaches would rather win at any place than compete in the SEC. But coaches usually have an ego that pushes them.
It's hard to believe big money schools with great facilities in the SEC have such a difficult time hiring who they target. Jimmy Sexton
seems to be the constant in these coaching search's and disappointments.
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:24 am to OLDBEACHCOMBER
Would be a breach of fiduciary duty and he would get disbarred
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:25 am to OLDBEACHCOMBER
he is about to deliver jimbo to aggy so i'm not sure your point.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:27 am to OLDBEACHCOMBER
I don't think he is railroading other searches to protect Saban. Now things like the fact that he is Mullen's agent and from what I hear is also Pruitt's is more interesting to me and makes you wonder how all these things relate to one another.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 8:28 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:31 am to DingLeeBerry
Why did you downvote me Jimmy?
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:31 am to OLDBEACHCOMBER
I can definitely see your reasoning OP but you have to remember James Sexton works for the coaches. The coaches do not work for Sexton. I'm sure the coaches listen to his advice but ultimately Sexton does what he's told to do I would imagine. This seems like just more Saban conspiracy theory with no teeth to back it up.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:32 am to DingLeeBerry
He controls more than you think, he is the mover behind the scenes. He leverages his own clients to protect them in their current jobs by showing interest in any job that comes open including NFL.
With Saban, he has leveraged Bama with the NFL even though he has no interest in ever going back.
Fisher is about to get Saban money coming off a 6-6 year. Only Sexton could do that.
With Saban, he has leveraged Bama with the NFL even though he has no interest in ever going back.
Fisher is about to get Saban money coming off a 6-6 year. Only Sexton could do that.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:32 am to DingLeeBerry
Jimbo is not going to aTm. That's classic Sexton. He floats the rumour that his coach is interested in leaving and the current school panic and gives them a raise. He did it for Les with the Ark job and did it twice for Jimbo with LSU.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:33 am to OLDBEACHCOMBER
Got some real House of Cards, Underwood type sh!t going there do ya OP?
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:34 am to LSUDonMCO
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He did it for Les with the Ark job
George Bass is Les' agent, not Jimmy
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:37 am to LSUDonMCO
quote:Did it multiple times with Tuberville at AU. Doing it again with Gustav (at least he's had a couple of big wins to show for it).
He floats the rumour that his coach is interested in leaving and the current school panic and gives them a raise
It's his MO. And he's good at his trade.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:41 am to OLDBEACHCOMBER
Yeah not a fan of sexton or agents having the power they do in the college game. it's ruining the game. Or schools need to start hiring ADs that have more than Athletic Dept experience. Typical ADs cant go against these agents.
He better figure out a way to get UT a HC worth a lick soon though. I'm sure he donates just enough to UT for Currie to let him continue to f UT over.
He better figure out a way to get UT a HC worth a lick soon though. I'm sure he donates just enough to UT for Currie to let him continue to f UT over.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:44 am to OLDBEACHCOMBER
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because of his bigger client, Saban?
This is incredibly stupid.
Sexton is getting his garbage tier B/C coaching clients high paying gigs. That is being a good agent and nothing to do with Saban
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:53 am to AllbyMyRelf
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Would be a breach of fiduciary duty and he would get disbarred
I don't think he is a lawyer. That said, Sexton can't stop ANY of his clients from accepting/rejecting a job. It's 100% their decision. Sexton can advise, but he doesn't make the ultimate call. He's doing what any good agent/lawyer does, use his client's leverage to negotiate the best deal for his client.
If Fisher wants to be the coach at Texas A&M, he'll be the coach at Texas A&M (assuming the job is offered to him). Likewise, if Fisher wanted to be the coach at LSU he'd be the coach at LSU.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:54 am to GenesChin
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Sexton is getting his garbage tier B/C coaching clients high paying gigs. That is being a good agent and nothing to do with Saban
Yep, the big names get raises to stay where they are (more money for him) and the no names get big promotions and pay raises, which he gets a percentage of, so more money in his pocket. In the end it's kind of like he's a glorified Advocare rep.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:56 am to Alt26
I couldn't find anything to confirm whether he is a lawyer, but several people have told me he is.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:59 am to OLDBEACHCOMBER
quote:
why have teams like
LSU, Fla, Tenn, Ark, South Carolina lately end up with plan B or C
LSU ended up with plan O b/c option A didn't want to come back, Texas was a more desirable job to option B, and your AD panicked and instead of hitting the reset button on his search he made the easy hire.
Florida got option C for them b/c option A wanted to go Pac, and option B wants to go to his alma mater. Not for nothing, but option C for Florida would've/should've been option A for teams like LSU, Tenn, Ark, etc and they'd have hired their coach already.
Arky has gotten the coach they wanted each of their last 2 hires. Let's see who they end up with before we say they are stuck with option B or C.
South Carolina wanted Kirby. He got the UGA job, so they went with Muschamp. Not sure why he was option B or C for them instead of option D or E, but it seems to have worked out ok.
Tennessee is a different animal. They could've had Mullen had they moved on him first. They flirted with Gruden for weeks and should've known he was never coming. Had UT offered Mullen $6M+ the day after his season ended and put a 24 window on it, they'd likely have hired him. They are ending up with option who knows what b/c they are incompetent. That has nothing to do with Sexton.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:05 am to TOSOV
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Yeah not a fan of sexton or agents having the power they do in the college game. it's ruining the game.
The agents have ZERO power. It's the coaches that have the power. School aren't trying to hire the agent. They're trying to hire the coach.
If you want to blame anyone for "ruining the game", blame the fans/boosters who have sky high expectations. In the SEC alone the fanbases/boosters of at least half of the 14 teams EXPECT their teams to be annual national championship contenders and nothing else will do. However, the reality is that only one team can win the title and generally only one team (perhaps two this season) will even compete in the playoffs. As soon as the coach has a "down" year, the fans are adamant that he be fired and the best coach in the country be hired to replace him, regardless of costs. That creates a HUGE market demand for the top coaches.
Why wouldn't a coach try to maximize his salary? The schools could cap the market by saying "this is a much as we will pay and you can leave if you don't like it." A coach is only "worth" as much as someone will pay him. However, with the fans/boosters adamant that the schools win at all costs, the schools are willing to pay ever increasing salaries. Don't blame the agents. They're just well paid intermediaries.
The greatness of Jimmy Sexton is not his negotiating skills, but his ability to identify and sign as clients the most in-demand coaches.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:11 am to OLDBEACHCOMBER
I think he negotiates so hard some schools are just tired of dealing with him
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:13 am to Alt26
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If Fisher wants to be the coach at Texas A&M, he'll be the coach at Texas A&M (assuming the job is offered to him). Likewise, if Fisher wanted to be the coach at LSU he'd be the coach at LSU.
Fisher still being employed by FSU probably doesn't speak with other potential schools directly. His contact would be through Sexton only, at least at first. This would be true for other openings. Sexton controls what both sides hear. It's likely he has more control that some think. Maybe less than I suspect.
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