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re: Jimbo and Muschamp NOT "done"....yet
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:14 pm to BayouBengals03
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:14 pm to BayouBengals03
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everyone post a bullshite rumor thread so this gets bumped down to the 2nd page
Dibs on the "Saban flight to Austin" thread
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:14 pm to firejohnbrady
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Les liked that he ran the exact same defense as Chavis (widely known but Chavis and Steele are best friends). Never saw the need in changing the scheme.
similar mistake he made with the Co-DC frick up, well they know the scheme so everything else should hold serve.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:21 pm to BilJ
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Steele easily had the worst resume of the field and he somehow got the job, it just did not make any sense. He got it mostly because of Les' familiarity with him.
Hated the peveto re-hire when we made it as well, I get the guy can recruit but he was not a good STs coach his first stint here and that is even more apparent now.
The steele and peveto hires may have been the best we could get at the time because of the contracts Alleva was willing to offer. The better candidates may have wanted more security that Miles would be here longer.(the same reason Chavis left).
Im thinking if this is all true, it probably played out with Jimbo getting word to Alleva through agents, etc that if the LSU job comes open, he'd be interested (likely in the last year or 2). So from there Alleva didnt want to overcommit to anything, in case an opportunity came up to snag Jimbo. Now with LSU underachieving in the SECW again, the whole thing has been set in motion.
Just trying to put all the pieces together.
There's probably a couple of names on Alleva's list other than Jimbo, so we can retain Miles as a last resort if none of them work out. Doubt we would fire miles for an up and comer, or without a big name replacement lined up. The fact that its leaking out either means its happening, or that the LSU admin is a mess.
This post was edited on 11/25/15 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:28 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
so much fricking 
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:28 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
Think we'd hire Herman over keeping miles?
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:30 pm to Random LSU Hero
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:30 pm to TN Bhoy
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Jimbo and Muschamp
And we will still lose to Alabama and one other team regularly along with Arkansas every other or third year.
You DO NOT want anyone that has ever coached with Saban to be the new HC. Make a clean break from the guy....he has lived rent free in the minds of LSU fans since he took the job 8-9 yeas ago.
LSU has a plethora of skilled offensive talent on the roster and the sate of Louisiana produces some of the best skill players in the nation. Find someone who can use that skill to an advantage. Saban knows Jimbo's tendencies. He understands Muschamp's temperament he found them, taught and cultivated them.
You want someone else.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:32 pm to Random LSU Hero
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Funny thing is I knew about Steele as the DC about 10 days before it went down but didn't post because I was like "there ain't no way" Lol. Shouldve trusted my guy(s)
Impressive
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:35 pm to KiwiHead
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Saban knows Jimbo's tendencies. He understands Muschamp's temperament he found them, taught and cultivated them.
Just stop.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:37 pm to Easternrio
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I love how people with no inside sources come here to get news.
Ha...you come here to get news?
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:47 pm to Easternrio
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I love how people with no inside sources come here to get news. Then when someone with sources passes on info they have they get bashed.
You know how many posters come here with 'secret info'?
It takes talent to decipher truth from BS.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:51 pm to firejohnbrady
One of many reasons "money isn't an issue" is that the amount paid to Les will probably be closer to $7.5 million than it is $15 million. LSU can play super hardball and not date his termination til 1/1/16 if they want. That reduces the buyout to $12.9 million right there, so that's the ceiling on Les.
On top of that, his buyout is reduced by any money he earns after he is terminated - coaching, ESPN, selling Grit door to door, anything. He also has to use "best efforts" to get other employment. So if he takes the UCF job at $1.2 million per, LSU can take that off of the buyout amount.
Or if he doesn't, LSU can argue that he could have earned as a coach or commentator, and simply take a credit of, say, $1 million a year on the assumption that he'd have earned that if he'd really used "best efforts." If Les doesn't like that, he can sue LSU in state court in Baton Rouge, likely in front of a judge who's an LSU fan.
All this assumes no negotiation takes place at all on a "gentleman's agreement." If that happens we go down, but if not, a truly "full" buyout could very easily be as low as $8.9 million, paid out in 96 monthly installments over 8 years.
On top of that, his buyout is reduced by any money he earns after he is terminated - coaching, ESPN, selling Grit door to door, anything. He also has to use "best efforts" to get other employment. So if he takes the UCF job at $1.2 million per, LSU can take that off of the buyout amount.
Or if he doesn't, LSU can argue that he could have earned as a coach or commentator, and simply take a credit of, say, $1 million a year on the assumption that he'd have earned that if he'd really used "best efforts." If Les doesn't like that, he can sue LSU in state court in Baton Rouge, likely in front of a judge who's an LSU fan.
All this assumes no negotiation takes place at all on a "gentleman's agreement." If that happens we go down, but if not, a truly "full" buyout could very easily be as low as $8.9 million, paid out in 96 monthly installments over 8 years.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:55 pm to 1999
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hink we'd hire Herman over keeping miles?
Strictly my opinion, but i dont think they would let Miles go so unceremoniously for an up and comer. Has to be an established name for it to make sense. Now if everything blows up, like FSU counter-offering, Jimbo backing out after we already let Miles go, etc. and LSU ends up doing a full fledged coaching search, i could see them having to take a chance on a younger guy.
Also in that case, you'd think Alleva would have snuffed out the Miles rumors earlier in case we had to keep him. The fact that he never came out and said Miles is our guy, tells me he thinks he has a guy lined up already.
Once again, this is just me trying to make sense of it all. No real insider info.
This post was edited on 11/25/15 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:55 pm to Martin Blank
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. LSU can play super hardball and not date his termination til 1/1/16 if they want. That reduces the buyout to $12.9 million right there, so that's the ceiling on Les.
That's not feasible. We couldn't sign Jimbo on 1/1 for recruiting reasons. Nor could we sign Jimbo now and fire Les a month later and argue in good faith.
This post was edited on 11/25/15 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 11/25/15 at 3:05 pm to Martin Blank
All that just to let everyone know that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 3:06 pm to Linkovich
To actually fire him 1/1/16 would not be feasible. But when George Bass starts the bidding at "pay Miles $15 million," the first counter by LSU would be "fine, we'll let you twist in the wind for three weeks while the media crushes your legacy." He'd actually be gone immediately, but termination dated later.
Could work or not, but it's a strong ploy, and could hold up if challeged (it's essentially the basis of the Chavis suit). It's all just a negotiation at this point.
Could work or not, but it's a strong ploy, and could hold up if challeged (it's essentially the basis of the Chavis suit). It's all just a negotiation at this point.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 3:08 pm to Martin Blank
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George Bass starts the bidding at "pay Miles $15 million," the first counter by LSU would be "fine, we'll let you twist in the wind for three weeks while the media crushes your legacy." He'd actually be gone immediately, but termination dated later.
Could work or not, but it's a strong ploy, and could hold up if challeged (it's essentially the basis of the Chavis suit). It's all just a negotiation at this point
When George Bass walks into court with a contract signed by the next head coach dated Dec 1, 2015 and a contract with Miles termination dated January 1, 2016, Bass is gonna drop his nuts on the desk for LSU's attorney and smile.
This post was edited on 11/25/15 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 11/25/15 at 3:13 pm to wildtigercat93
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the OP called the Cam Cameron Hire months before it happened and was ridiculed for being dumb for a while until it started to leak
here it is
thats over a month before CBSsports.com officially "broke" the story on 2.8.13
Posted on 11/25/15 at 3:16 pm to MastrShake
Nice find.
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