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re: Jaguars fire Doug Pederson per Schefter (Updated also GM Trent Baalke)

Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:54 am to
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:54 am to
Let me cope damnit.

My son who is the huge Jags fan (born in that area) has stuck with that fricking franchise despite constant ridicule from the bandwagon little shits in his school was so happy to be rid of Doug this morning. Just doesn’t get the entire problem at 12

It’s just amazing to me that a self made billionaire can be so daft when it comes to this kind of thing.
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 10:57 am
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116444 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:00 am to
Fair, I had to cope with Jerod Mayo and a crew of second rate assistants last year so I feel ya
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
22543 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:07 am to
But the GM stays. Comical
Posted by nugget
Abrego Garcia Fan
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:19 am to
Doug Pederson is 69-69 in the NFL
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8678 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 1:22 pm to
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Anyone saying Pederson is a good coach and jville is a bad organization doesn’t understand pederson’s stubbornness and unrelenting loyalty to Press Taylor (Bengal coach’s brother). Doug feels like he’s groomed Taylor to be THE guy and clearly admitting Press has failed kinda indicates he himself failing.


Pederson also throws his QBs under the bus relentlessly unlike any coach I've ever seen. Its just not something you do even if its the truth (and it rarely was in Jacksonville). He did the same thing in Philly to Wentz.

You have your OC calling up stuff like a designed fade to a RB on an early down late in the 4th with plenty of time on the clock to run it out and score.... with BTJ, Evan Engram, and others on the roster.

I genuinely feel bad for Trevor. First year he has a legit number 1 receiver and he gets hurt. Has dealt with Pedersen and Meyer as his head coaches. He deserves a good coach.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8678 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 1:26 pm to
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It’s just amazing to me that a self made billionaire can be so daft when it comes to this kind of thing.



Baalke is like the GM version of one of those coordinators who isn't very good, but bounces around the league for years because they are seen as a "safe" choice in a very risk-averse league.

He makes some legitimately very good draft picks. But he also picks only on measurables far too often and misses guys who might not have the right arm length or height or whatever else but are good players, and then takes a guy who is a workout warrior that doesn't produce on the field. You can't just get next to nothing out of your 2nd and 3rd rounders even if you nail the first rounders.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72433 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 5:14 pm to
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You have your OC calling up stuff like a designed fade to a RB on an early down late in the 4th with plenty of time on the clock to run it out and score.... with BTJ, Evan Engram, and others on the roster.


Back up RB*
Posted by GeauxFish31
Member since May 2024
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:09 pm to
They actually have a pretty good roster.
Posted by Hastings99
Member since Oct 2024
198 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:35 pm to
this video is WILD. baalke pretty much got neutered by Khan here

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Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
3321 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:39 am to
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Baalke is like the GM version of one of those coordinators who isn't very good, but bounces around the league for years because they are seen as a "safe" choice in a very risk-averse league.

He makes some legitimately very good draft picks. But he also picks only on measurables far too often and misses guys who might not have the right arm length or height or whatever else but are good players, and then takes a guy who is a workout warrior that doesn't produce on the field. You can't just get next to nothing out of your 2nd and 3rd rounders even if you nail the first rounders.


Agree. WAY to common in the NFL, drafting strictly on measureables, its "safe" harder to get fired when the workout warrior doesn't pan out vs. taking a chance on the bettrer football player who doesn't break records at the combine.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131654 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:14 am to
I saw that earlier this morning. Just ridiculous on Khan's part and in some ways worse for Baalke.

He should just fire him
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8678 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:42 am to
I wonder what a potential coach could say to get him to fire Baalke?

Ben Johnson is a HOT name. He seems like he will be a very good coach. But he hasn't actually done it yet.... are you really going to can an experienced GM (even if he is flawed) because a guy who has never been a head coach before says the right things?
Posted by St Augustine
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Member since Mar 2006
72433 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:46 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8678 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:47 am to
I think he should be gone too, but Shad should have the sense to do it himself without being told
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72433 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:50 am to
It kind of blows my mind how a self made billionaire with his resources doesn't privately bring in (select whatever extremely respected nfl front office resource you want that will gladly meet for a rich consulting fee) and get a clear list of front office guys and HCs.

I guess being headstrong and confident to an absolute fault is why he’s a billionaire and I’m not

Like if a cursory glance around the internet shows the extreme unpopularity of Trent, how do you not dig a bit deeper as to why that is. I’m sure he probably has privately but it’s just frustrating.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 9:53 am
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72433 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:23 am to
Full list of formal requests for interviews.

quote:

Detroit Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson

Detroit Lions defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn

Tampa Bay Buccaneers offensive coordinator Liam Coen

Baltimore Ravens offensive coordinator Todd Monken

Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator Joe Brady

Las Vegas Raiders defensive coordinator Patrick Graham

Green Bay Packers assistant Robert Saleh

Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinator Kellen Moore

The Jaguars could also interview former Tennessee Titans head coach Mike Vrabel, though they would not need to put in a request to speak with him. The
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61691 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:55 am to
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But it won’t matter who hire. Until Loomis is fired or stuffed into corner office without control the team is fricked.
This is my position. Loomis is incompetent. Salary management, terrible. Talent acquisition, terrible. Draft, beyond pathetic. Hell, he isnt even charismatic.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72433 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 7:46 am to
Per Russini Ben Johnson officially interviewing with the Jags this weekend as is Glenn.
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 7:47 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 7:49 am to
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Green Bay Packers assistant Robert Saleh

It's hilarious to me that they have to give a formal request for a guy in a role like Saleh
Posted by JinFL
Duuuval
Member since Oct 2004
4509 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 7:34 am to
quote:

Ben Johnson officially interviewing with the Jags this weekend as is Glenn


Still hot names in the Jags search?
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