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re: In coach O's biggest audition.

Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by jaTigerfan
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:37 pm to
Beefense wants Fisher. Not sure about the others.
Posted by SportTiger1
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:37 pm to
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our oline sucks.


Did you not read the rest of my post? we all KNEW the oline sucked going in. You got to plan around that.

Shockingly enough, there are plays that take almost all pressure off of the oline.

I'm hopefully Jimbo knows some of those plays.
Posted by tigerborderjumper
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:38 pm to
O was the HC. Aranda's defense was playing lights out, so needed no input. Ensminger's offense was getting creamed and needed help and HC input that never materialized. So, yeah, O helped with the defense by letting Aranda do his job but failed the offense by not getting involved. A HC is ultimately responsible for the whole package. O failed.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:43 pm to
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Beefense wants Fisher.


Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:46 pm to
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O was the HC. Aranda's defense was playing lights out, so needed no input. Ensminger's offense was getting creamed and needed help and HC input that never materialized. So, yeah, O helped with the defense by letting Aranda do his job but failed the offense by not getting involved. A HC is ultimately responsible for the whole package. O failed.



seconded
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:47 pm to
Right? Everybody else has been kicking Alabama's arse lately, what's O's problem?
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:48 pm to
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Did you not read the rest of my post? we all KNEW the oline sucked going in. You got to plan around that


I agree that the gameplan sucked my point is idk that it would have mattered. I think etling and the oline are that bad...just my opinion. Trust me we can go back years and I have always said we need to spread bama and hit them with quick passes rather than run into the teeth of their defense.

But to judge o based on his offense (not really his offense) is unfair especially considering that Meyer, Dabo, and most other teams with good offenses would get beat by bama. Not scoring sucks but losing 10-0 is better than 45-17
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:49 pm to
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Right? Everybody else has been kicking Alabama's arse lately, what's O's problem?



I don't think anyone anticipated kicking Alabama's arse

good try though
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:50 pm to
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but failed the offense by not getting involved. A HC is ultimately responsible for the whole package. O failed.


if the hiring of the next coach is dependent on beating bama I guess we are lucky Houston and FSU don't play them
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:50 pm to
So, you guys expected Ed to fix our offensive deficiencies in 4 weeks, with the promotion of Ensminger

And. Your big complaint is a hindsight view of not sitting the best running back to ever play at LSU.

If Ed is the coach all year, even with a deficient OC, we beat AU or Wiscy and are in the playoff talks

Ed O has many reasons to nit be named the head man, the shortsighted views expressed here are not valid
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:51 pm to
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Beefense wants Fisher


maybe he isn't that bad
Posted by Canwoodtiger
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:51 pm to
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The worse part of that game was, we knew our Oline sucked, and we knew they were going to stack the box to contain LF. Instead of trying plays that hide our weaknesses, we played right into their hands, like we have the past 4 years. No quick passes, no screens, no spread, no sweeps, no trick plays. OM, aTm, and Clemson have shown us how to score against Bama, but we ignored it completely. Everyone is putting the failure on the Oline or Etling...but the coaching staff is 100% to blame for not adapting. From the first offensive series, i knew we were doomed.


Everyone involved in the offense and offensive game planning was at fault - 0, Ensminger, OL and Ettling. They should have apologized to the D for wasting their valiant efforts.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:51 pm to
I think he just meant that overall the offensive plan didn't even come close to beating bama

O clearly lacks the ability to make halftime adjustments on offense. Relying on an OC is a slippery slope when you consider the volatility of the coaching job market
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:53 pm to
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So, you guys expected Ed to fix our offensive deficiencies in 4 weeks, with the promotion of Ensminger



nah

I don't think O has the brain to fix anyone's offense

and I don't mean that as an insult. I just mean he isn't an offensive guy.

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If Ed is the coach all year, even with a deficient OC, we beat AU or Wiscy and are in the playoff talks



nothing but hypothetical arguments for O

yall are reaching
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:55 pm to
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I think he just meant that overall the offensive plan didn't even come close to beating bama


witht he exception of one year with Mett that has been the gameplan since 2011..our best team ever only scored 9 pts against them in 2 games. We are Sabans bitch

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O clearly lacks the ability to make halftime adjustments on offense


I believe the second half was all about not making mistakes b/c the d was playing lights out
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:56 pm to
I suppose you didn't read the part about many reasons to not hire him

The basic misunderstanding of football is a common theme in shitty threads like this one.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:56 pm to
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If Ed is the coach all year, even with a deficient OC, we beat AU or Wiscy and are in the playoff talks


yep...hell we would be #2 in the rankings right now
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:56 pm to
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witht he exception of one year with Mett that has been the gameplan since 2011..our best team ever only scored 9 pts against them in 2 games. We are Sabans bitch



which is the exact reason why so many people want an offensive minded HC

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I believe the second half was all about not making mistakes b/c the d was playing lights out



sounds like Miles

no thanks
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:57 pm to
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The basic misunderstanding of football is a common theme in shitty threads like this one.



please elaborate and educate

I'm a dry sponge
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