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re: If I were Ohio State, I'd go after Art Briles

Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:59 am to
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:59 am to
if we go back over the last 25 years and do it, i think it would still be very impressive.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:06 am to
Yep. Something about Ohio and football coaches.

There's a reason Miami of Ohio was called the cradle of coaches in the 1960s and 1970s.

Paul Brown, Woody Hayes, Bo, Ara Parseghian, Weeb Ewbank, Sid Gillman, Bill Arnsparger, Bill Mallory, Jim Tressel, Ron Zook, Randy Walker, John Harbaugh, Gary Moeller, Larry Smith, Sean Payton & others.
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 10:07 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:07 am to
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Dumbass

Ohio/OSU produce the best coaches, and it aint even close.


OK, so outside of Meyer, what great coach from Ohio can you get? Just because a lot of recent NC coaches were born in Ohio, doesn't mean its stupid to limit your choices to just that. But feel free.

Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41888 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:08 am to
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& others


dr lou
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:09 am to
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OK, so outside of Meyer, what great coach from Ohio can you get? Just because a lot of recent NC coaches were born in Ohio, doesn't mean its stupid to limit your choices to just that. But feel free.


Well, Gary Pinkel was born in Akron and I think he'd probably coming running if Ohio State came calling.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21061 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:10 am to
Is there a chance a guy like Fitzgerald leaves NW for an OSU gig?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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38283 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:11 am to
I'm not sure. He's a Northwestern guy through and through. He has done an amzing job there considering the situation he stepped into.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21061 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:14 am to
Yeah I know that's his "dream job" but he should know there is only so much you can do there. If he has an opportunity to take over a big program I think he would give it a long hard look.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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38283 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:16 am to
God dammit.

How did I forget Dick Lebeau? That sob can coach.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61082 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:19 am to
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There's a reason Miami of Ohio was called the cradle of coaches in the 1960s and 1970s.

Paul Brown, Woody Hayes, Bo, Ara Parseghian, Weeb Ewbank, Sid Gillman, Bill Arnsparger, Bill Mallory, Jim Tressel, Ron Zook, Randy Walker, John Harbaugh, Gary Moeller, Larry Smith, Sean Payton & others.


Ohio is a big state and FB was prominent in the MW, there are also a lot of D1 schools but if you are going to count guys like Sean Payton, who was born in Calif, grew up in Chicago suburbs, played at E Ill because he spent a season or 2 as an OC at Miami, the list will be much longer.

By the logic of looking at the last 10 years as a reason to only look at Ohio guys, it was stupid to hire Ohio guys in the early 2000's since in the 90's the coaches that won had not ties to Ohio.
Bill Mccartney no Ohio ties, did coach at scUM
Booby Ross no Ohio ties
Dennis Erickson no Ohio ties,
Gene Stallings no Ohio ties
Bobby Bowden no Ohio ties, wait coached at WVU, that borders Ohio
Tom Osbornre no Ohio ties
Lloyd Carr no Ohio ties, did coach at scUM another border state
Phil Fulmer, no Ohio ties.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:26 am to
The point is that we've done very well historically and the vast majority of our coaches have been Ohio guys. No need to change that if the right coach is available.

The fact that coaches from Ohio or with Ohio ties have been so plentiful and succesful makes it easier to stick with the proven formula for success.
Posted by Born to be a Tiger
Somewhere lost in Texas
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:48 am to
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I know they won but Briles pissed me off last night. Go for it on 4th and one on like your own 30 yard line in a tie ballgame in the 3rd? Are you just trying to screw your team over? Not only that you do a shotgun QB draw. He's freakin lucky RG3 bailed him out.
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You are right and I think Briles is one of the most over rated college coaches today. If he leaves Baylor he will become the next Curley Hallman of college football. Curley was over rated because his QB won the games not his coaching. SlowFlowPro thinks you and I are wrong.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61082 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:02 am to
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If he leaves Baylor he will become the next Curley Hallman of college football. Curley was over rated because his QB won the games not his coaching. SlowFlowPro thinks you and I are wrong.


Art Briles, unlike Curley has won at 2 places, with 2 different QB's. One of which followed him to BU.
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 11:02 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481225 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:02 am to
and he left Houston pretty stacked for sumlin to keep the pain train going (which i'm pretty sure did not happen at USM)
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 11:08 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61082 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:07 am to
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The point is that we've done very well historically and the vast majority of our coaches have been Ohio guys. No need to change that if the right coach is available


The key word is if the right coach is available. Certainly scoop up Meyer if he's there and wants the job, but if he passes and you limit your self to just Ohio guys, because you've had success in the past or recently some Ohio nativies or guys that coached for a year or 2 in the state have won big, you are limiting your chances of success.

Look at it this way, there's a ton of D1 talent in Ohio HS, should you only recruit Ohio, or is it a good idea to also recruit near by states and Texas, Fla, Calf etc?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:42 am to
I agree. A team should always go after the best available candidate.

It just appears at this time that the candidate seems to be an Ohio guy.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:48 am to
I don't know why people are saying Herbstriet would bomb as qb coach. As long as tOSU would get a good offensive coordinator and Herb can focus on recruiting, it seems like he'd be an asset. Plus, it's not like the guy doesn't know the position..
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30599 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:10 pm to
Comparing Briles to Curly

Briles is a Texas guy. He coached HS football in the state for quite some time. I don't see him going to Ohio. I see him filling a void in-state...or close by anyway.

How much longer does Tubs get at Texas Tech?
How much longer does Sherman have at TAMU?
Does UT want Mack around much longer when they can get someone with a little more fire?
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30875 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:24 pm to
Just heard another interesting thing...

Marotti will be rejoining Meyer in Columbus.
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
15201 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 1:08 pm to
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its ohio state, where 95% of all ohio kids grow up wanting to be buckeyes; meyer would have to actively try to fail in recruiting.

not true
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