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re: If a company offered to at least double your salary

Posted on 1/13/10 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

Your coach is a raging a-hole. I promise, if you check my post history you will see I am very consistent. I've said the the UT fans that I have no issue with them, but as long as Kiffin is coaching there, I wanted UT to be destroyed in every game.


You are off the hook.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 9:34 pm to
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USC Admin are idiots if they had to offer Kiffin more than Tenn


It was not so much admin who forked it over. More so boosters who fund a lot. The have a ton of loaded boosters out there.
Posted by TigerBite
Dallas
Member since Feb 2004
2753 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 9:35 pm to
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That just ain't happening. USC is aware of the outcome and it'll be light. You are naive if you believe major universities are not aware of the outcome before they are "officially" told. NCAA interviewed Bush knowing well he would deny. They needed all bases covered prior to wrapping this up. Kiffin was told of the outcome by SC officials and he his right. Other than the loss of 2-3 schollies, it won't affect him at all.


Even if you are right, you addressed ONE single statement in my post. It just means your program brings too much money to the NCAA for them to do anything legit.

And I need to recant some of my statement. It's not a brilliant move at all, it's an obvious move. Anyone who is not a Tennessee grad or has serious ties to the SEC would be a fool not to run to the USC job. In the SEC, Kiffin is an also-ran, a knat that's annoying the good coaches of the conference with his words. At USC, he IS the Pac-10. You cannot deny this. The SEC is riddled with excellence and your conference is infected with mediocrity. Kiffin will do well at USC even if he is average. That's the difference in the conferences.
Posted by TigerBite
Dallas
Member since Feb 2004
2753 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 9:38 pm to
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It was not so much admin who forked it over. More so boosters who fund a lot. The have a ton of loaded boosters out there.


Your ton of loaded boosters got their 5th choice. Good job.

And for the record Tangerine, I really have no problem with you at all....but please don't act like USC's job is the real luster here in all this, it's getting the hell out of the mega-conference....no matter what USC has to offer.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 9:45 pm to
If Tennessee can land Muschamp, they'll be better off than they were before this deal. Muschamp is much more professional, mature, and tougher than Kiffin.
Posted by TigerBite
Dallas
Member since Feb 2004
2753 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 9:47 pm to
Totally agreed. Tennessee will be much better off, not just by a Muschamp hiring, but there are several who would do better. If the latest reports are true though, Muschamp is staying put.

Tennessee took a huge chance and got burned. I think they've learned their lesson.
Posted by As RXd
Member since Aug 2009
6011 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 9:50 pm to
shite, UT is much better off with Kiffy leaving.
Posted by nevilletiger79
Monroe
Member since Jan 2009
17570 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:08 pm to
dont be pissing on chowns leg and tell him its raining. he knows a con when he sees three
Posted by SeattleTiger19
Member since Oct 2007
4537 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:14 pm to
I really do not care why he left. I am just glad USC thinks a 12-21 record is the type of record needed to coach their program. They just downgraded their prestige with that hire. Coaches were denying you and so you got desperate and hired the one guy who would not say no. If the system was so great every coach you approached would have said yes. Have Kiffin, but I think he was a major step back. He said how he was there to build the program but we all know Chow was the man who built that offense.
Posted by Lincoln1
Member since Dec 2007
1509 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:25 pm to
A convenient part of the analogy to leave out:

And you had just gotten a bunch of young employees to plan the next and most important part of their life to date based on promises you'd made and speeches you'd given about how committed you were to that original job.
Posted by Matto21o
Shreveport, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2006
216 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 10:39 pm to
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Nobody is slamming Kiffin for leaving to go to USC. It's a brilliant move. You have less than half the competition of the SEC, instead of playing 8th fiddle in the conference, and 4 or 5 fiddle in your own division, you move to a conference where you can win it every year with great talent and marginal coaching and no championship game. You make more money, your plastic wife also has her social life back, and you move to the land where you were so well thought of that a losing head coaching record is acceptable. Like I said, brilliant move.

nicely said
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 1/13/10 at 11:48 pm to
Quite honestly, seeing Kiffen goto USC, especially now, is like watching someone about to pour gasoline on an already roaring fire.

You know what's going to happen, but you can't help watching.

Posted by RandyMarsh
South Park
Member since Dec 2009
1770 posts
Posted on 1/14/10 at 12:30 am to
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In a city that you love and even went to college


Lane Kiffin went to Fresno State.
Posted by ianrules22
Member since Nov 2009
2636 posts
Posted on 1/14/10 at 12:35 am to
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instead of playing 8th fiddle in the conference, and 4 or 5 fiddle in your own division,


Tennessee finished 2nd this year in the east....
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31326 posts
Posted on 1/14/10 at 12:52 am to
LA is a dump. What the hell are you talking about?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298333 posts
Posted on 1/14/10 at 2:15 am to
The joke isn't on Tennessee. The Joke is on U$C. Why the hell U$C, thinking it was an elite coaching destination would stoop to hiring Kiffin is beyond me.

We are laughing at U$C, not Tennessee or Kiffin.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37510 posts
Posted on 1/14/10 at 2:50 am to
The only people who really have a right to feel betrayed are the players he looked in the eye and told he looked forward to coaching them at UT.

The fans and administration can feel pissed but when they would happily fire him for sucking or happily steal a coach from another school (even say petrino or mullen after very short stints at their SEC schools)... they have no right to pretend the moral high ground

Having said that... I think Lane will be a disaster at USC... it's not just that I think he'll have to completely rely on his coordinators but that USC is already under teh microscope by the NCAA and bringing in someone who is clueless about what the rules are... or that they are important to follow... seems good only if you like schadenfreude
Posted by beardedzeus
NOLA
Member since Mar 2006
4474 posts
Posted on 1/14/10 at 6:02 am to
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with a much better company? In a much better town--near the ocean? In a city that you love and even went to college. In an area where your children spend their formative years? In fact you worked for that company before and thought it would be dreamy to be higher up in the company. was dreamy. They gave you 48 hours to decide. Your family supported you? Remember, more than double your salary, with an agreement for several years. as an added plus, you get to bring your closest co-workers with you.

You'd stay right where you are or go?


I'd probably go. How long did you live in Los Angeles and what year did you graduate from USC?
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
12085 posts
Posted on 1/14/10 at 6:37 am to
I'm still trying to figure out why USC had to double the spoiled little brats already unreasonable salary? I mean, its the best job in the country, nice weather, his home, where his kids spent their formative years (how old are they anyway?), by the ocean, blah,blah,blah. Why did they have to double his salary. Like someone said, Garrett and the USC admin are total idiots.
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
3132 posts
Posted on 1/14/10 at 7:29 am to
To answer the OP question, who would be my boss?

Would it be an undeserving, unaccomplished, unethical, poor leader destined to fail?

If so, then no.
This post was edited on 1/14/10 at 8:26 am
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