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re: "I support Tubbs" thread

Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:34 pm to
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:34 pm to
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i can see that besides bilj and LE, nobody in this thread even cares to give any legitimate reasons against tubbs



How you leave a program when you leave is VERY important. Auburn's program was garbage when Tubberville left. Tubberville did have some success for a while, but he always did it inspite of pretty average recruiting relative to other SEC schools.

Saban basically walked into that state, and literally took everything away from him overnight.

My opinion of Tubberville has nothing to do with him showing us up. I dislike Saban as much as anybody else, and I'd take him back if given the opportunity.

What a garbage suggestion. LSU is much bigger than a Tubberville hire.
Posted by bgtiger
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:35 pm to
I hate you, Rouge ...diafstfugtfo
Posted by STLSU
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:38 pm to
Tubs and his BBQ boys suck
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:41 pm to
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Tubberville did have some success for a while, but he always did it inspite of pretty average recruiting relative to other SEC schools.




And that is a negative?
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:43 pm to
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Saban basically walked into that state, and literally took everything away from him overnight.
and Tubbs owned the state for the previous 5+ seasons. we also agree that Saban is a pretty damn good coach

Auburn has always been second fiddle in the state of Alabama. the scenario that played out was bound to happen once bama got a top coach. we are in a one school state, so we cant really understand how much of a second fiddle that AU actually plays in that state

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Auburn's program was garbage when Tubberville left.
considering they are playing for a national title TONIGHT with a shitload of players that TT recruited, i'm going to have to respectfully disagree
Posted by ANAKINSKY
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 8:48 pm to
tubbs is a better coach than miles
Posted by Dalosaqy
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:03 pm to
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He's tigerbait.


Will not happen under any circumstances.
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:13 pm to
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And that is a negative?


Absolutely. The SEC is much more competitive now. You have to be able to run a program and bring in top notch talent.

All you have to do is look at what his last couple of teams did at Auburn and take an educated guess as to what last year would have looked like had Tubberville stayed around.

That program was in shambles when he left and going in the wrong direction.
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:16 pm to
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and Tubbs owned the state for the previous 5+ seasons.


He never owned the state from a recruiting standpoint....even when Bama was at its worst.

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considering they are playing for a national title TONIGHT with a shitload of players that TT recruited, i'm going to have to respectfully disagree



And you think that Auburn would be playing for the NC had Tubberville stayed? I think that's a ridiculous notion.

Posted by STLSU
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:20 pm to
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Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:21 pm to
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Absolutely. The SEC is much more competitive now. You have to be able to run a program and bring in top notch talent.



you are acting like he coached so long ago. It's basically the same in terms of competitiveness.

He ran that program well despite being a 2nd tier SEC school.


I mean did Les Miles recruit top notch talent at OK ST?

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All you have to do is look at what his last couple of teams did at Auburn and take an educated guess as to what last year would have looked like had Tubberville stayed around.



11-2
9-4
5-7


those were he last 3 seasons. I dont know, that doesnt seem like it was in shambles to me. Chizik won 8 games last year with the talent Tubbs left and is in the national title game now. I mean really?
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:26 pm to
what are you talking about? I said my dislike for him has nothing to do with the bad blood. NOTHING. I even mentioned him throwing in the towel when saban started whipping his arse on the recruiting trail.

Don't call me out when one of the reasons you listed for hiring a guy was because he got swagga from his UM days. You grow up
Posted by STLSU
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:28 pm to
Tubs is a worse coach than Miles really. He has loyalty to a bunch of dipshits that Miles looked past like Mallory. OK maybe not LOL JK.

The biggest problem with Tubs is he is a lazy SOB and doesn't change his philosophies. He's also a lazy recruiter, which is why he wants on here at LSU, thinking he can just squeak by with easy pushes. I don't want his old lazy arse. His wife barely wants him.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:29 pm to
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you are acting like he coached so long ago. It's basically the same in terms of competitiveness.



It's not the same as when he was having success. Look at what Arkansas, Mississippi State, and Alabama have done since Auburn was on top. LSU has maintained it's position as well. This should be obvious, but you can disagree if you want.

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11-2
9-4
5-7

those were he last 3 seasons. I dont know, that doesnt seem like it was in shambles to me.



So, his last couple of season (which is what I referenced) accounted for a 6 win dropoff. And, it wasn't going to get better with Tubberville at the helm.

You can disagree if you want. But, you might want to get an Auburn fan's opinion on the subject.

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Chizik won 8 games last year with the talent Tubbs left and is in the national title game now. I mean really?


Chizik (more appropriately Malzahn and Cam Newton) have made the difference. To think that their position in this game has ANYTHING to do with Tubberville is crazy, IMO.

But, you are entitled to your opinion. Go ahead and believe Tubberville would be a good hire if you want.
Posted by s_i5
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:30 pm to
frick NO on Tubbs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:30 pm to
WillieJ, i said that you and Les are the only two to have valid arguement besides straight hate for cocky shite Tubbs did in the past

it was actually a compliment, hoss
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:31 pm to
UM update ST?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:32 pm to
you're a da.

Les Miles is a year older than Tubby
Posted by dreaux
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:36 pm to
you cannot count his last season there as some of his better work. You could tell he flat out did not give a frick for what ever reason

And a really bad OC.
Posted by MondayMorningMarch
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 9:38 pm to
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Rouge


I'll say it again...I could never suppoort someone who condones AND LEAD thug bullshite that his teams pulled over the years in Tiger Stadium. Why would anyone want someone like that representing them unless you're the u? Win with class.
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