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How soon we forget Jimbo...

Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:18 am
Posted by Spankem
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
1078 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:18 am
Jimbo was ridiculed for being too predictable in his play calling and underachieved with the talent that we had on the offensive side of the ball. He went to FSU and he is now a quarterback developing guru who keeps the defenses guessing on every down.

Some folks judge CEO for what he did 10 years ago, but don't look at Jimbo through the same lens. I guess people see what they want to see.

In either case, the future is bright for the LSU Fighting Tigers.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:22 am to
Good god man.

Jimbo clearly was held back by Les Miles like most of his coordinators. He was solid under Saban. Look what Jimbo has done since.

Compare Jimbo being a good OC under Saban to Orgeron going 3-21 as a HC in the SEC in conference games.

Then compare what Jimbo has done since, 3 ACC titles, 1 Natty Title, top 5 recruiting annually...with Orgeron having 2 interim gigs.



There is no comparison for sane people.
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
21744 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:22 am to
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Jimbo was ridiculed for being too predictable in his play calling and underachieved with the talent that we had on the offensive side of the ball


Wait so in 2005 and 2006? Oh yeah wasn't that dumbass Miles the head coach?

The same Miles that was the HC when all that ridiculing affected pretty much every single one of his OCs?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158761 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:23 am to
this board is like a giant game of whack a mole....
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52791 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:23 am to
After 10 years you still haven't figured it out?
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:23 am to
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Jimbo was ridiculed for being too predictable in his play calling and underachieved with the talent that we had on the offensive side of the ball.


Are you fricking kidding? You do realize that there has not been ONE successful OC under Miles. So do you think that is because all the OC's were trash, or maybe Miles made their offenses look like trash because he had the ultimate say in what was going on!

Posted by Royal Tiger Fan
Cali
Member since Dec 2008
1162 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Jimbo was ridiculed for being too predictable in his play calling and underachieved with the talent that we had on the offensive side of the ball.


Yes...and so was every other OC that worked under Miles...

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He went to FSU and he is now a quarterback developing guru who keeps the defenses guessing on every down.


Yes....because he wasn't working under Miles. Now you are seeing his true ability.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36114 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:27 am to
The take home lesson a lot of LSU fans refuse to revisit is that they were wrong about him when he was at LSU. He developed quarterbacks and led productive offenses.

Our fans are so stubborn they can't accept an obvious truth when it requires admitting they were wrong.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127410 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:28 am to
Some people just won't give it up.
Posted by Spankem
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
1078 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:31 am to
Jimbo did well under Saben. But that 2003 championship was based off of one of the best defenses and special teams play ever up to that point. The offense was good, not great. Even under Saben, the offense was called predictable with play calls. I doubt anyone who watched Jimbo lead offenses prior to Miles would say anything contradictory to what is stated in the OP. You guys have proven my point. Jimbo has improved his game and it appears that CEO has also improved his game as well. It's just that some folks want to give credit to one, and not the other.
Posted by 7nette
Member since Nov 2015
4909 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:38 am to
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The offense was good, not great.


Good enough to win a NC, good enough for me. What you guys don't seem to get is we don't need a coach that can score 60 points a game against cupcakes, we just need one that can adjust midgame and score on 20-30 on good defenses like Alabama. If we scored 22 points every game this year we'd be 9-0. That's all we needed... 22
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43894 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:38 am to
quote:

The offense was good, not great


iDk..they had 5,857 total yards . 2600 yards rushing, 3257 passing. Ranked #3 all time in LSU history, 2nd all time in pass completions, 3rd all time in scoring. With a defense that was only allowing an avg of 69 yards a game, that usually wins championships.
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 11:42 am
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:41 am to
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2003 championship


quote:

The offense was good, not great.


WTF



ETA:

post above just destroyed you
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 11:42 am
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:43 am to
Also, Jimbo was so heralded as an OC that he was hired as Bobby Bowden's Head Coach in Waiting.

Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:43 am to
If you've watched LSU football since Les Miles came here, you would easily realize he had his thumb on every OC we've had.

The fact that Jimbo's offense at FSU is completely different should tell you that much.

But you choose to be dense and dishonest instead. Why?
Posted by Royal Tiger Fan
Cali
Member since Dec 2008
1162 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:45 am to
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You guys have proven my point.


A weak point

O was the head man. And sucked. Freeze came in and elevated ole miss (after Nutt).

Jimbo, like every other OC under miles, was held back. Went to FSU and won a title.

O held team together as interim coach but u can't compared his success to Jimbo
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Jimbo did well under Saben. But that 2003 championship was based off of one of the best defenses and special teams play ever up to that point. The offense was good, not great. Even under Saben, the offense was called predictable with play calls. I doubt anyone who watched Jimbo lead offenses prior to Miles would say anything contradictory to what is stated in the OP. You guys have proven my point. Jimbo has improved his game and it appears that CEO has also improved his game as well. It's just that some folks want to give credit to one, and not the other.


2001? 2006 was VERY good towards the back in. 2003 was very eficient.

You just ignore those?
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:47 am to
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You guys have proven my point. Jimbo has improved his game and it appears that CEO has also improved his game as well. It's just that some folks want to give credit to one, and not the other.


I agree with you, both have improved!
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:50 am to
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Saben


Can we talk about this?

How can a college football fan, who thinks he knows enough about the sport to make an educated opinion on who should be our head coach, not know how to spell Nick Saban's name?

Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
5981 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:02 pm to
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Jimbo did well under Saben. But that 2003 championship was based off of one of the best defenses and special teams play ever up to that point.


The offense averaged 33.9 points per game. That wins games any year.

quote:

I doubt anyone who watched Jimbo lead offenses prior to Miles would say anything contradictory to what is stated in the OP.


Bobby Bowden would. That's why he hired Jimbo as OC and head coach in waiting at FSU.

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Jimbo has improved his game and it appears that CEO has also improved his game as well. It's just that some folks want to give credit to one, and not the other.


You want to bet LSU's football future on appears?
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