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How many coaches has LSU actually INTERVIEWED?
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:03 pm
This is what all of the O supporters are failing to understand.
Again, I'm not even anti-O. If the admin does their due diligence and decides for whatever reason that O is the best candidate, then so be it.
But to completely fail to conduct a true search for the best and brightest football minds for a position of this magnitude would simply be a breach of their duty.
Say O is hired, Alleva would absolutely take the podium and say something along the lines of, "After reaching out to many different coaches, we have decided Ed Orgeron is the best man to take charge of this program", because he would get destroyed if he said, "Well the other guy that we really liked said no, so we are going with O"
But there is an absolute difference between just "reaching out" or speaking through agents about vague terms that it would take for a certain coach to consider changing jobs and a coach actually coming in and sitting down to pitch themselves as the next coach of LSU.
In a job search like this, candidates should be not only allowed, but expected, to come in with a plan, a chance to pitch their vision for where the program could go and where it should be. That is why these things can't be done in September or October when coaches have responsibilities to their current teams and employers.
It isn't until this time of year when coaches may allow themselves to peek in a different direction if the season is pretty much decided.
So, no, Alleva hasn't conducted a thorough search, as he will claim that he has when the new coach is introduced.
Why can't people understand that you have to actually INTERVIEW a few candidates so that you can adequately judge them against each other?
I don't have a "favorite", I only have a feeling for who I hope the decision makers are giving a fair chance.
Even someone I have my doubts about like Fedora or Mullen would very possibly make Alleva stop and say "Wow this guy is a really smart coach and seems like he could fit in well here."
But if they are never even given a chance to make their pitch, how can we as fans just accept either Jimbo or O knowing that such a limited process gave us these two options for a position that should lead to a frenzy of coaches lining up to make their case.
I will just never understand how this position has been narrowed down to two options without any real interview process.
Again, I'm not even anti-O. If the admin does their due diligence and decides for whatever reason that O is the best candidate, then so be it.
But to completely fail to conduct a true search for the best and brightest football minds for a position of this magnitude would simply be a breach of their duty.
Say O is hired, Alleva would absolutely take the podium and say something along the lines of, "After reaching out to many different coaches, we have decided Ed Orgeron is the best man to take charge of this program", because he would get destroyed if he said, "Well the other guy that we really liked said no, so we are going with O"
But there is an absolute difference between just "reaching out" or speaking through agents about vague terms that it would take for a certain coach to consider changing jobs and a coach actually coming in and sitting down to pitch themselves as the next coach of LSU.
In a job search like this, candidates should be not only allowed, but expected, to come in with a plan, a chance to pitch their vision for where the program could go and where it should be. That is why these things can't be done in September or October when coaches have responsibilities to their current teams and employers.
It isn't until this time of year when coaches may allow themselves to peek in a different direction if the season is pretty much decided.
So, no, Alleva hasn't conducted a thorough search, as he will claim that he has when the new coach is introduced.
Why can't people understand that you have to actually INTERVIEW a few candidates so that you can adequately judge them against each other?
I don't have a "favorite", I only have a feeling for who I hope the decision makers are giving a fair chance.
Even someone I have my doubts about like Fedora or Mullen would very possibly make Alleva stop and say "Wow this guy is a really smart coach and seems like he could fit in well here."
But if they are never even given a chance to make their pitch, how can we as fans just accept either Jimbo or O knowing that such a limited process gave us these two options for a position that should lead to a frenzy of coaches lining up to make their case.
I will just never understand how this position has been narrowed down to two options without any real interview process.
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:04 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Probably zero. Our administration is a joke
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:06 pm to Tiger Voodoo
five have been contacted, unsure if formal or informal interviews were held, but five coaches have been contacted
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:06 pm to LC412000
Oh shite I stand corrected
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:07 pm to Macintosh
Considering anyone worth a look is still employed right now, I'd say zero is a good estimate.
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:07 pm to LC412000
Is this real or just conjecture?
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:08 pm to LC412000
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five have been contacted, unsure if formal or informal interviews were held, but five coaches have been contacted
How do you know this
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:08 pm to Macintosh
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Probably zero. Our administration is a joke
It would actually be a really bad deal if any of the guys mentioned over the last few months actually had a face to face interview. You just don't do that in the middle of the season.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:09 pm to LC412000
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five have been contacted
Assuming for a second you actually know this for a fact, define "contacted"?
Did Alleva call Chip Kelly's agent and say "any interest from Chip about coming to Baton Rouge?"
Because if that is all we are talking about, it still doesn't satisfy his duty to vet all possible options in my opinion.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:15 pm to GeauxColonels
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Threve
Eleventeen
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:28 pm to sicboy
Tough to interview guys mid-season that are still trying to win where they are.
Things like this usually wait until the end of the regular season.
Things like this usually wait until the end of the regular season.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:28 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Interviewed? Not during the season
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:34 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Why can't people understand that you have to actually INTERVIEW a few candidates so that you can adequately judge them against each other?
Should those coaches skip out on practice for a "sick day" to go interview @ LSU?
No one knows what's going on for a reason. It's bad for LSU b/c it looks like we're poaching coaches. It's bad for the current HC to be found-out that he is interviewing. What happens when he's caught interviewing and he doesn't get the job? You think his Admin is going to be happy about it?
I think this is the right process as there are way too many variables at play - including careers, player sentiments about if they should transfer out etc.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:34 pm to Tiger Voodoo
We have had 1 LSU jet sighting and it was in WV.
Not feeling great about this.
Not feeling great about this.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:37 pm to idlewatcher
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Should those coaches skip out on practice for a "sick day" to go interview @ LSU?
You are missing the point.
Of course we haven't interviewed anyone.
Which begs the question how in the hell can our AD think he has found the best man for the job???
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:38 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Because if that is all we are talking about, it still doesn't satisfy his duty to vet all possible options in my opinion.
What else is Alleva supposed to do in the middle of the season? It takes mutual interest for anything to get started anyway.
If we were hearing 10-15 candidates were being interviewed and considered, this place would be apoplectic about most of them and accusing Alleva of having no plan.
It seems pretty evident based on what happened last year and what's happening now, Jimbo has been Alleva's #1 target. That doesn't mean he didn't do his due diligence, but this can't be a secret among coaches and agents. I can't imagine many are likely to take a token interview in the middle of a season with that knowledge.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 3:40 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Things like this usually wait until the end of the regular season.
Unless you are Bobby Petrino....coaching in the pros.....get throttled on Monday night after Thanksgiving.....leave good bye letters to your players and show up in Fayetteville the next day
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