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re: Herman should be the top man regardless of what O does
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:14 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:14 pm to Fun Bunch
I agree it would take undefeated to Ruth down a Herman but even then I still prefer him next season and the future
LSU is so loaded this season they should win out
LSU is so loaded this season they should win out
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:16 pm to Fun Bunch
I don't think O would go if he doesn't go undefeated and LSU hires a big time coach
Even he would understand
I believe he loves LSU that much
He just wants a shot
I really like Herman with the defensive staff staying for the most part
Even he would understand
I believe he loves LSU that much
He just wants a shot
I really like Herman with the defensive staff staying for the most part
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:31 pm to John Cena
Yup
Herman knows how to scheme against Alabama and maximize the talent he has.
He's very balanced too and does whatever it takes to have success
I want a HC that is either an offensive genius or defensive genius
That way you always have consistency on that side of the ball
Urban and his offenses
Saban and his defenses
Never matters what oc or dc they have.. they tend to just always have great success in their side
And I believe LSU can get top DC with their talent better
Coach O is nice in that he allows his coordinators to coach but what happens when they leave.. it's more iffy to cover like that. Coach O is a tremendous motivator which works with this talent but how much of an x and o's hc is he. I really want LSU to hire a tremendous x and o guy after so many years of Miles.
LSU has so much talent they should or could win out but as others said., if you can get Herman you take it IMO
He Maximizes talent and beats much superior teams with much less talent
I don't care they lost to navy on the road who has an impressive home winning streak. It was still competitive and they had unfortunate events happen and nearly overcame that. They are still Houston and were never truly a top 5 team because of lack of talent. It's just obvious this guy gets the most out of his players. Look what he did versus Wisconsin and Alabama with equal talent
He's still only averaging 1 loss a season .. it's veery difficult for them to go undefeated especially with their talent abe pressure knowing they can't drop any.
He can afford a loss a season at an LSU and still contend and I fully believe he can beat Bama. The very kind that gives Saban fits.
I also think he should come to LSU over Texas because LSU is built to win now. Texas didn't even make a bowl game and their D is still flat out hit garbage. He has far superior D here..
Herman knows how to scheme against Alabama and maximize the talent he has.
He's very balanced too and does whatever it takes to have success
I want a HC that is either an offensive genius or defensive genius
That way you always have consistency on that side of the ball
Urban and his offenses
Saban and his defenses
Never matters what oc or dc they have.. they tend to just always have great success in their side
And I believe LSU can get top DC with their talent better
Coach O is nice in that he allows his coordinators to coach but what happens when they leave.. it's more iffy to cover like that. Coach O is a tremendous motivator which works with this talent but how much of an x and o's hc is he. I really want LSU to hire a tremendous x and o guy after so many years of Miles.
LSU has so much talent they should or could win out but as others said., if you can get Herman you take it IMO
He Maximizes talent and beats much superior teams with much less talent
I don't care they lost to navy on the road who has an impressive home winning streak. It was still competitive and they had unfortunate events happen and nearly overcame that. They are still Houston and were never truly a top 5 team because of lack of talent. It's just obvious this guy gets the most out of his players. Look what he did versus Wisconsin and Alabama with equal talent
He's still only averaging 1 loss a season .. it's veery difficult for them to go undefeated especially with their talent abe pressure knowing they can't drop any.
He can afford a loss a season at an LSU and still contend and I fully believe he can beat Bama. The very kind that gives Saban fits.
I also think he should come to LSU over Texas because LSU is built to win now. Texas didn't even make a bowl game and their D is still flat out hit garbage. He has far superior D here..
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:59 pm to dbuchanon
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Ppl are quick to push the story of Herman supposedly saying he doesnt like the way Texas is not giving Strong a fair deal, yet they see no problem firing O for Herman even if he wins out or does well.
One has nothing to do with the other.
We're looking for a proven coach. The next few games does not out way 3 years of complete suck at ole miss. Maybe it earns him a HC job...but not this one.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 1:35 am to Tiger Ryno
Herman has been a head coach for a year and a half and managed to lose to less talented teams in UConn and Navy. Ohio State? Urban was the head coach, not Herman.
Herman may be great some day, but we hand our program over to a guy with a year and a half coaching in a minor conference? The Herman lovefest is premature
Herman may be great some day, but we hand our program over to a guy with a year and a half coaching in a minor conference? The Herman lovefest is premature
Posted on 10/19/16 at 1:43 am to BillF
Jimbo is the answer to all our problems. A proven, national championship winning coach should be the top man on the list
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 1:49 am
Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:09 am to ipodking
quote:I'd prefer Herman, but what I think matters not. I think Jimbo is the #1 candidate they're looking at and I haven't read anything from anyone claiming sources on here that has said different.
Jimbo is the answer to all our problems. A proven, national championship winning coach should be the top man on the list
I honestly think that the powers that be are all in for Jimbo and all of the Herman stuff is media and message board speculation. I think if we're all in for Jimbo and he says no, then Herman won't be attainable for us anymore if he ever were to begin with.
I'm thinking that the decision makers are thinking Fisher or(God, please no) Orgeron if he proves enough to them.
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 4:12 am
Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:29 am to BillF
Herman is a bigger risk than Jimbo because he doesn't have a long HC resume, but his upside is tremendous.
The OBC interviewed for the LSU HC position with a short resume, 35-21 in the USFL. LSU passed and Duke hired him. We spent the entire 90s wondering what could have been while getting routinely spanked by his Gaytors. Herman is potentially this type of hire. I don't want to spend the next decade wondering what could have been because LSU choose a name over an up and coming new coach that is almost universally considered a potential great coach.
The OBC interviewed for the LSU HC position with a short resume, 35-21 in the USFL. LSU passed and Duke hired him. We spent the entire 90s wondering what could have been while getting routinely spanked by his Gaytors. Herman is potentially this type of hire. I don't want to spend the next decade wondering what could have been because LSU choose a name over an up and coming new coach that is almost universally considered a potential great coach.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:40 am to Tiger Ryno
Thank you. Everyone is jumping because he loves Louisiana.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:15 am to mikrit54
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Ok. Herman has won a lot of games at Houston. Many with talent he inherited. And it ain't the SEC.
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Ok. Orgeon has NOT won a lot of games at Ole Miss. Many with talent he inherited and talent he recruited. And it was the SEC.
Okay, i fixed it. Which one would you rather?
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:09 pm to SportTiger1
A little perspective on the Ole Miss job in general:
In the last almost 50 years (since Vaught in the early 70s) there have been only 2 coaches at Ole Miss to have over a .500 SEC record. Cutcliff and now Freeze. Even those two are barely above .500
Cutcliff finished at .521
Freeze is at .514
Orgeron's 3 years at Ole Miss a decade ago have almost zero to do with his performance here now at LSU other than teaching him what not to do.
In the last almost 50 years (since Vaught in the early 70s) there have been only 2 coaches at Ole Miss to have over a .500 SEC record. Cutcliff and now Freeze. Even those two are barely above .500
Cutcliff finished at .521
Freeze is at .514
Orgeron's 3 years at Ole Miss a decade ago have almost zero to do with his performance here now at LSU other than teaching him what not to do.
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:26 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Orgeron's 3 years at Ole Miss a decade ago have almost zero to do with his performance here now at LSU other than teaching him what not to do.
I'll concede that it was a while back and that he could have and probably has changed since then.
But it's his ONLY real Head coaching job. It's like 80% of his entire HC resume.
I guarantee anyone hiring him will weigh those 3 years more than anything else.
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