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re: Help me out here re: those of you who want to keep O
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:17 am to Topwater Trout
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:17 am to Topwater Trout
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so who is your guy? Must not be Herman
Why not? And I'm not necessarily saying that it is, but why not?
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 10:17 am
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:17 am to Topwater Trout
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what about the fact the team has played much better since CLM has been fired? You don't think he has anything to do with it? They are playing much smarter, more disciplined, executing better...is none of that development?
O is a great interim coach, those skills don't necessarily translate over the long term though
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:19 am to Topwater Trout
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what about the fact the team has played much better since CLM has been fired? You don't think he has anything to do with it? They are playing much smarter, more disciplined, executing better...is none of that development?
I think a lot of this is attributable to the fact that we were on our way to becoming a dumpster fire under Les. He was losing the team. I give O credit for what he has done, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm ready for him to take over the program.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:19 am to Mo Jeaux
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but why not?
he has lost to inferior teams...not exactly what we want to see in a potential coach. Orgeron hasn't.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:19 am to Topwater Trout
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Orgeron hasn't.
Sure he has. See his Ole Miss stint.
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he has lost to inferior teams...not exactly what we want to see in a potential coach.
That fricking Saban guy lost to Monroe and Birmingham. That guy is never going to make it as a college football coach.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:21 am to Draconian Sanctions
Because of one game?
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:21 am to Mo Jeaux
It doesn't give you pause to think "well damn look how much he has improved the team in a matter of weeks...what if he had full control" I mean there is no disputing the team he is fielding every week would have beaten the crap out of Wisconsin and Auburn. I think with an offseason to bring in an offensive guru this team could be scary.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:22 am to Mo Jeaux
Was at a bar Sat night, what did the announcers say about O?
Thanks
Thanks
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:22 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Just your personal opinion or you have historical facts to prove otherwise?
O is a great interim coach, those skills don't necessarily translate over the long term though
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:23 am to Topwater Trout
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It doesn't give you pause to think "well damn look how much he has improved the team in a matter of weeks...what if he had full control" I mean there is no disputing the team he is fielding every week would have beaten the crap out of Wisconsin and Auburn. I think with an offseason to bring in an offensive guru this team could be scary.
Short term thinking.
O does not have the skills necessary to manage an elite program year round. Hes great when you need a spark, that's it.
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 10:24 am
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:24 am to Mo Jeaux
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That fricking Saban guy lost to Monroe and Birmingham.
so you want to compare a team being rebuilt to one that needs to be brought up to date offensively?
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See his Ole Miss stint.
Please tell me how Ole Miss and LSU are comparable other than the fact they are SEC west teams...This should be good.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:24 am to LC412000
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Just your personal opinion or you have historical facts to prove otherwise?
Yeah it's almost like he's been both an interim coach and a full time coach before.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:25 am to Draconian Sanctions
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O does not have the skills necessary to manage an elite program year round.
He has never had the opportunity...or have I missed where he has run an elite program?
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:27 am to Topwater Trout
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He has never had the opportunity...or have I missed where he has run an elite program?
He couldn't even get a middling program to respectability and you think running an elite program is easier?
If O won out and LSU hired Herman or Fisher...who would hire O as a head coach?
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:27 am to Topwater Trout
He ran USC. They are usually classified as an elite program. And then they decided that he wasnt good enough and didnt keep him on.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:29 am to Greace
8 weeks and 12 months a year for multiple years are completely different animals.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:31 am to Greace
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He ran USC. They are usually classified as an elite program. And then they decided that he wasnt good enough and didnt keep him on
And then proceeded to make a disastrous hire in Sark, who apparently would rather do jello shots from coed racks than attend meetings. Then they fired him and now have a new coach who is doing rather well. And guess what?! Gasp! He too was an interim head coach.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:31 am to Draconian Sanctions
Im on your side.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:32 am to Draconian Sanctions
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He couldn't even get a middling program to respectability
Had to battle 2 major D1 teams for home state recruits, a history of losing, other teams, Bama, Auburn, Tenn, LSU, etc recruiting Miss. Does Ole Miss have facilities anywhere close to LSU? There are no comparisons between the 2 universities.
The question is why isn't Freeze on the short list...with what he has done at ole miss (while at a distinct disadvantage to LSU and Bama) shouldn't he be high on everyones short list?
Posted on 11/14/16 at 10:33 am to Topwater Trout
Well Freeze is going to have a show cause any minute now
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