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re: Get ready for perpetual mediocrity if O gets the job

Posted on 10/19/16 at 8:45 pm to
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 8:45 pm to
The next guy at Ole Miss did better with the talent he brought in and never got to coach except for when they were freshman or sophomores then those guys left and Nutt made the program even worse.

For all the people who think we have to hire some x and o genius
is Dabo swinney one or was Bobby Bowden one? Even Saban is not the best gameday coach but he's the best recruiter of all time
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
10019 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:04 pm to
So unproven Herman is out?
Posted by 7nette
Member since Nov 2015
4909 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:06 pm to
If we lose the next 5 games people will say it was because it was Miles' players and Coach O didn't have time to implement his own system.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16171 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:06 pm to
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For all the people who think we have to hire some x and o genius is Dabo swinney one or was Bobby Bowden one? Even Saban is not the best gameday coach but he's the best recruiter of all time


amen brother. If it works it works. We just have to wait and see how it plays out. Way to early to hire or fire Coach O. If he can get it done along with Aranda and Esnminger and Damyune Craig and Jenkins then keep the staff instact.

Remember, these weren't even his players (they are now) yet he is still getting it done. Who can say. If he wins out, beats Bama, and the team looks well coached, why wouldn't he be considered? It would be a miracle season. One for the history books.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16171 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:10 pm to
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Did Bama go hire unproven D line coach when they were down and out? Hell no.


if we can get Herman we are going to get him. If not, we need to look at other choices.

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If you want to settle for O you will have to shake hands with a ceiling of 9 wins and a lot of 7 and 8 win seasons


you don't know that anymore than you know what Jimbo or Hermans record would be if they wind up here
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:42 pm to
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Did Bama go hire unproven D line coach when they were down and out? Hell no. They went for the throat.


Whom Bama hires is irrelevant. They also hired a long list of losers before they finally got Saban too, but that’s also irrelevant.

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If you want to settle for O you will have to shake hands with a ceiling of 9 wins and a lot of 7 and 8 win seasons.


Is coach O a better coach and a better recruiter than his predecessor and the answer is a resounding yes.

Thus, if coach O wins out, the job should be his. If he finishes 4 - 1 or 3 - 2 (only with two close losses) then coach O should be under consideration for the job.

I would go all out to try to hire Jimbo. If Jimbo refuses to leave Florida State, then I would offer Herman, but I would not offer Herman any more money than I would offer coach O, because Herman is an unproven coach. If he refuses the job, then the job is coach O’s.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95008 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:46 pm to
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they just want a Louisiana personality to lead the program, even if it means 9-3 seasons and annual trips to the Texas Bowl


This is so frickng stupid.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:49 pm to
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mediocrity


NOT THIS shite AGAIN!!!

Posted by JScoop8
Member since Oct 2014
1088 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:51 pm to
typical bama comparison. no one is hiring saban again, let it go.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
21492 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 9:53 pm to
Bobby Bowden was considered a very good offensive X/O's guy, fwiw.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
17844 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:03 pm to
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Did Bama go hire unproven D line coach when they were down and out? Hell no. They went for the throat.




They were a few hours away from hiring rich rod
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:05 pm to
maybe you don't realize how many coaches bama went through before getting lucky with saban.
Posted by HMTVBrian2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
5760 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:08 pm to
i'm with you but the rantards are going to go down kicking and screaming

we're probably fricked.
Posted by HMTVBrian2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
5760 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:09 pm to
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The next guy at Ole Miss did better with the talent he brought in and never got to coach except for when they were freshman or sophomores


that's what happens when you win 3 conference games in 3 seasons

it's not like Houston Nutt won the SEC with the team he left. They went 9-4 twice. Is that what we're shooting for now?
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:10 pm to
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It's become abundantly clear that a significant portion of our fans don't actually care about winning - they just want a Louisiana personality to lead the program, even if it means 9-3 seasons and annual trips to the Texas Bowl.


so you are the judge of what coach O is capable of doing? just because these people think he will be a great coach doesn't make them accepting mediocrity.

at least we've seen him turn this team around. Herman hasn't done shite. ok he won 2 games against good teams. TWO frickING GAMES. and now he walks on water. we don't know if he can recruit. we know very little about him BUT he has been anointed as the greatest of all time.

and you have the audacity to and belittle those that like what they see about O?
Posted by icoczar
birmingham
Member since Sep 2005
1273 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:25 pm to
I'll FIFY Get read y for perpetual mediocrity if jimbo gets the job
Posted by mikrit54
Robeline
Member since Oct 2013
8664 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:30 pm to
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Tiger Ryno

Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10681 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:34 pm to
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so you are the judge of what coach O is capable of doing?


Unlike half our fans, I don't ignore his resume. I don't ignore the 3-21 conference record at Ole Miss. I don't ignore the fact that his predecessor and successor at Ole Miss had far more success than he did.

I don't ignore the fact that his function, at this point, is to give this team a shot of energy every week so they can get through the rest of the season, and that anything that occurs during that span will provide zero additional insight into his ability to manage and run a program over the long term - because we already have the results on that.

Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:35 pm to
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To be fair, Bama went all in on shitty Rich Rodriguez and got turned down.
Bama got Finebaum to turn the water hose on Rodriguez as soon as they got word Saban was interested. They effectively used Finebaum to destroy Rodriguez's wife so they could move him out of the way.
Posted by mikrit54
Robeline
Member since Oct 2013
8664 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:37 pm to
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