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re: FWIW....Crowton is gonna stay

Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by Books
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Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:02 pm to
sure some like Choc will still be fighting the good fight
Posted by beardedzeus
NOLA
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:02 pm to
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No where in my post did I use "guarantee" or the dreaded "book it"..


True but the title of your thread is 'Crowton is gonna stay' which sounds somewhat definitive for someone without any concrete info.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:05 pm to
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sure some like Choc will still be fighting the good fight


I've never argued that Crowton should stay.
Posted by athletemed
The Woodlands, Texas
Member since Oct 2007
5871 posts
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:08 pm to
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True but the title of your thread is 'Crowton is gonna stay' which sounds somewhat definitive for someone without any concrete info.


I can see that...the issue is that the coaching carousel is turning and anything can happen BUT all the indications I am getting is that he will be here next year...

Book it!!
Posted by Books
BR
Member since Jun 2005
11174 posts
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:09 pm to
no, but you'll have your list of excuses for LM the moment it's announced he does.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:11 pm to
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no, but you'll have your list of excuses for LM the moment it's announced he does.


this is true...i've been writing a few down each day for the last couple of weeks.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4891 posts
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

sure some like Choc will still be fighting the good fight


i look at it this way. i have my concerns, i try to keep an open mind. what if it's the qb? what if they guy does well next year? what if we are wrong and the h.c. is right?

i have a hard time believing these guys can coach over 20 years at the highest of levels and not know what they are doing. i have a hard time believing a guy can call the best offense in school history then not know how to call a good offense again. i don't think he forgot. i'm not saying i'm a fan. i just try to be realistic with this. this is why i try and maintain an open mind.

If mett is the guy and the perform well next year, then you have to give props to miles.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56626 posts
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:12 pm to
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I've posted before that Les is a complete believer in Zach Mettenberger and is HEAVILY invested in him...he thinks #8 is the answer to what ails us...


so you are saying there is a chance that this kids starts next year?
Posted by athletemed
The Woodlands, Texas
Member since Oct 2007
5871 posts
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:13 pm to
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so you are saying there is a chance that this kids starts next year?


yes
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56626 posts
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:17 pm to
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yes


We just want a freaking change in the worst way! I know that sounds like a 19 year old Obama supporter, but seriously this is beyond "What are we waiting for" ?

If Crowton could dial up plays we saw last night, I have no problem with him staying.

But LSU play calling has sucks badly for 2.5 seasons...I don't know if it's because JJ is so bad or what, but all of it looks bad!

We want Change now!!! Stop believing! Change something, (OC and QB)_ so we can have hope in the change

Posted by Books
BR
Member since Jun 2005
11174 posts
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:20 pm to
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what if it's the qb?
Crowton had a hand in picking them and then is still being paid enough to show some development

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what if they guy does well next year?
same bullshite spouted last yr

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what if we are wrong and the h.c. is right?
what if Crowton's history speaks the truth?

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i have a hard time believing these guys can coach over 20 years at the highest of levels and not know what they are doing.
he can't develop a qb. it's there for anyone w/ a pair of eyes to see.
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If mett is the guy and the perform well next year, then you have to give props to miles.


and if a new QB in a new offese starting for the first time in the toughest conference in CFB fails, then LSU has wasted another yr. What's more likely in your open mind?
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10313 posts
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:40 pm to
If Crowton stays it doesn't matter who is at Quarterback the offense will fricking tank. I hope to hell the OP is wrong. Teams all around us are getting better and we are not even trying to keep up that is bullshite. For the life of me I can't see why Miles would keep the man around.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19691 posts
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:40 pm to
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If Crowton does stay, then hopefully The Berg wins the QB job outright. Because something has to change to expect different results.


I think GC back with JJ as starter and Les should get run. However, it's very possible he doesn't move GC b/c Mett will be the starter. I think GC would do fine with Mett but that doesn't make him a good OC as he can't seem to change or make it work without a certain type of guy.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4891 posts
Posted on 1/4/11 at 12:57 pm to
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Crowton had a hand in picking them and then is still being paid enough to show some development


i give you that. we'll disagree on "development". i just don't believe in it. i believe the player is the player. it's up to player, his God given ability and his desire to be great.


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he can't develop a qb. it's there for anyone w/ a pair of eyes to see.


please show me someone who consistantly does this? again, i don't believe in it. i do think crowton has issues with recruiting good ones (qb's).

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and if a new QB in a new offese starting for the first time in the toughest conference in CFB fails, then LSU has wasted another yr. What's more likely in your open mind?


well, guess you thought cam newton/Au, ryan mallet (last year), would fail. i'm not saying he's going to be those guys. i'm saying you're theory is as weak or weaker than mine.

you've made up your mind. you choose to see the negative, however, believe it or not, you're not always right, neither am I.

it's a shame no one can have a decent conversation with you. it's sad to see such a angry/jaded person.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 1/4/11 at 1:03 pm to
If Gary stays, I see it playing out as a 2 QB system again... with Mett taking the bulk of the snaps and JJ doing running QB duties.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163146 posts
Posted on 1/4/11 at 1:14 pm to
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please show me someone who consistantly does this?


Jimbo
OU
Leach
Mullen
Norm Chow when he gave a damn
Sarkisian
Chip Kelly


I could go on
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 1/4/11 at 1:14 pm to
Imagine this scenario:

Miles stays
Crowton stays
JJ starts
LSU goes 9-3
Offense ranked 85th in the country

Acceptable?
Posted by Books
BR
Member since Jun 2005
11174 posts
Posted on 1/4/11 at 1:18 pm to
quote:


i give you that. we'll disagree on "development". i just don't believe in it. i believe the player is the player. it's up to player, his God given ability and his desire to be great.

then I'm done, bc that's one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this site
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56626 posts
Posted on 1/4/11 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

Miles stays
Crowton stays
JJ starts
LSU goes 9-3
Offense ranked 85th in the country

Acceptable?


No, LSU fans expect to win the SEC this year!!!

I am dead serious!
Posted by texastigerr
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
9329 posts
Posted on 1/4/11 at 1:24 pm to
No, if Crowton leaves then Mettenburg will have the opportunity to win the position.
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