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Evaluate a coaches record minus his best QB - Fisher is not so special
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:46 am
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:46 am
This is something which allows one to assess whether the success is the system of the coach, or good fortune with a once-in-a-decade QB (Winston)
Fisher has had 2 special years in his 7 at FSU. '13 and '14 with Winston.
The others, in the ACC mind you, have been very Les Miles like.
I am not convinced that he is all that.
Why are we willing to pay him such high dollars, when most of his success has come with Winston?
Jimbo at FSU
Fisher has had 2 special years in his 7 at FSU. '13 and '14 with Winston.
The others, in the ACC mind you, have been very Les Miles like.
I am not convinced that he is all that.
Why are we willing to pay him such high dollars, when most of his success has come with Winston?
Jimbo at FSU
This post was edited on 11/18/16 at 8:48 am
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Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:47 am to THECEO
Soooooo 48-16 with a conference title is not impressive?
ETA: 2 conference titles
ETA: 2 conference titles
This post was edited on 11/18/16 at 8:48 am
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:48 am to THECEO
Well he also recruited Winston. Out of Alabama.
And made developed him into a superstar despite him having an IQ of a pineapple.
He also has had 1 year in 7 with less than 10 wins. He has 3 ACC titles (yes without Winston once!) and has developed lackluster QBs like EJ Manual and Christian Ponder so well he tricked the NFL into making them first round draft picks.
And made developed him into a superstar despite him having an IQ of a pineapple.
He also has had 1 year in 7 with less than 10 wins. He has 3 ACC titles (yes without Winston once!) and has developed lackluster QBs like EJ Manual and Christian Ponder so well he tricked the NFL into making them first round draft picks.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:48 am to THECEO
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Evaluate a coaches record minus his best QB
Why would you do this?
Why not evaluate him minus his WORST QB?
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:49 am to TheCaterpillar
Not to mention, Bowden left that place in terrible shape and Jimbo had a legitimate rebuilding effort his first couple of years.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:49 am to TheCaterpillar
This is possibly the worst thread started on coaching changes and that is saying a lot.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:49 am to ibleedprplngld
114-34
2 conference championships
1 national title win, 2 visits.
Wanna guess who I'm talking about?
2 conference championships
1 national title win, 2 visits.
Wanna guess who I'm talking about?
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:51 am to THECEO
Who recruited and coached that QB?
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:51 am to THECEO
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THECEO
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Jimbo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>O
The daily efforts and angles being put forth to discount Jimbo in favor of Ed O. are getting so old.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:52 am to THECEO
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Evaluate a coaches record minus his best QB
if you throw out his best years, you have to throw out his worst years as well
this is retarded
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:52 am to public_enemy
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Wanna guess who I'm talking about?
LSU would be lucky to hire another Les
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:53 am to public_enemy
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114-34 2 conference championships 1 national title win, 2 visits. Wanna guess who I'm talking about?
This is not about Les Miles vs. Jimbo. He's gone, wouldn't change his offense, got fired.
We're comparing O to Jimbo. No comparison.
Are you insinuating we had a coach w/a similar record to Jimbo and we fired him, so let's try something different and hire a coach with a losing record as a HC?
This post was edited on 11/18/16 at 8:55 am
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:55 am to THECEO
Evaluate Nolan Ryan if you take away his fastball. Pretty much just a journeyman pitcher.
And, these idiots put him in the Hall of Fame
wait.......
And, these idiots put him in the Hall of Fame
wait.......
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:56 am to TheCaterpillar
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Well he also recruited Winston. Out of Alabama.
D. Craig deserves a ton of credit for getting him
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:58 am to THECEO
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THECEO
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Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:58 am to public_enemy
Damn I didn't realize Les was 114-34
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:58 am to THECEO
Jimbo's winning percentage without Winston is about the same as Urban's winning percentage at Florida without Tebow.
Florida with Urban
2005 - 9-3
2006 - 13-1
2007 - 9-4
2008 - Tebow (13-1)
2009 - Tebow (13-1)
2010 - 8-5
Winning percentage without Tebow = 75%.
Florida State with Jimbo
2010 - 10-4
2011 - 9-4
2012 - 12-2
2013 - Winston (14-0)
2014 - Winston (13-1)
2015 - 10-3
Winning percentage without Winston = 76%.
Florida with Urban
2005 - 9-3
2006 - 13-1
2007 - 9-4
2008 - Tebow (13-1)
2009 - Tebow (13-1)
2010 - 8-5
Winning percentage without Tebow = 75%.
Florida State with Jimbo
2010 - 10-4
2011 - 9-4
2012 - 12-2
2013 - Winston (14-0)
2014 - Winston (13-1)
2015 - 10-3
Winning percentage without Winston = 76%.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:59 am to THECEO
He managed to make Christian Ponder a first round draft pick. Thats all I need to know and the only thing LSU has been missing for quite a while.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:00 am to THECEO
Why is there such a push to hand this program over to Orgeron on a permanent basis? Four wins against average competition? An outstanding defensive effort (mainly due to the DC) and a putrid offensive performance against the one outstanding opponent during that stretch?
It boggles the mind.
It boggles the mind.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:02 am to jlnoles79
Fisher is good, not great.
This post was edited on 11/18/16 at 9:04 am
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