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Does anybody else prefer the so-called second tier coaches
Posted on 11/9/21 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 11/9/21 at 12:25 pm
I think we would be better off with one of these so-called second tier coaches, Napier, Campbell, or Fleck. All three would be guaranteed very solid coaches at a program like LSU. To me they just seem like much safer pics than the so-called first-tier lineup of Fisher, Aranda, Tucker, and Riley.
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 12:28 pm to boxcar willie
This all seems subjective. Tucker is second tier to me.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 12:29 pm to boxcar willie
Yes, because being third place in the SEC is the goal
Posted on 11/9/21 at 12:30 pm to Buga
Lower 2nd tier at that but he gets extra points on the CRT scorecard to bump him higher on the list
Posted on 11/9/21 at 12:32 pm to boxcar willie
The first tier is Riley, Petersen, Jimbo and Aranda.
Aranda’s resume obviously doesn’t match up, but familiarity puts him on this level.
Campbell is a second tier candidate.
Fleck, Tucker and Napier are third tier or below, and would be terrible hires.
Aranda’s resume obviously doesn’t match up, but familiarity puts him on this level.
Campbell is a second tier candidate.
Fleck, Tucker and Napier are third tier or below, and would be terrible hires.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 12:39 pm to lsusa
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The first tier is Riley, Petersen, Jimbo and Aranda.
Aranda’s resume obviously doesn’t match up, but familiarity puts him on this level.
Campbell is a second tier candidate.
Fleck, Tucker and Napier are third tier or below, and would be terrible hires.
Riley and Aranda are in no way in the same tier.
Aranda might turn out to be a homerrun but in no way would he currently be in the same tier as Riley.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 12:40 pm to boxcar willie
According to Rabalais the odds on favorites are:
Jimbo 5-1
Tucker 7-1
Aranda 20-1
Kiffin 25-1
Napier and Franklin 30-1
Riley 35-1
Fickell 50-1
Jimbo 5-1
Tucker 7-1
Aranda 20-1
Kiffin 25-1
Napier and Franklin 30-1
Riley 35-1
Fickell 50-1
Posted on 11/9/21 at 12:42 pm to boxcar willie
Not that I necessarily agree, but I will say that we’ve all seen “homerun” hires fail and “meh” hires succeed.
“homerun” hires that didn’t meet expectations and/or failed:
-Frost/Nebraska
-Kelly/UCLA
-Harbaugh/Michigan (jury still out)
-Muschamp/Florida
-Herman/Texas
-Fuentes/VaTech
-RichRod/Michigan
-Richt/Miami
“meh” hires that were successful:
-Dabo/Clemson
-Orgeron/LSU
-Pittman/Arky
-Rhule/Baylor
*my only point here: don’t get too up or down on the hire…regardless how excited or disappointed we are when the hire is made makes no difference and is irrelevant to the eventual success/failure on the field
“homerun” hires that didn’t meet expectations and/or failed:
-Frost/Nebraska
-Kelly/UCLA
-Harbaugh/Michigan (jury still out)
-Muschamp/Florida
-Herman/Texas
-Fuentes/VaTech
-RichRod/Michigan
-Richt/Miami
“meh” hires that were successful:
-Dabo/Clemson
-Orgeron/LSU
-Pittman/Arky
-Rhule/Baylor
*my only point here: don’t get too up or down on the hire…regardless how excited or disappointed we are when the hire is made makes no difference and is irrelevant to the eventual success/failure on the field
This post was edited on 11/9/21 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 11/9/21 at 12:43 pm to lsusa
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Campbell is a second tier candidate.
Fleck, Tucker and Napier are third tier or below, and would be terrible hires.
I agree that Aranda has become a first Tier candidate, but so has Tucker. However I disagree that Campbell is on a higher tier than Napier and Fleck. All 3 are on that 2nd tier, but would be much more solid hires and better long term solutions than the so called first tier candidates.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 12:45 pm to boxcar willie
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but would be much more solid hires and better long term solutions than the so called first tier candidates.
Why?
Posted on 11/9/21 at 12:48 pm to boxcar willie
Napier for me. I believe he’s the right fit right now. The biggest attribute is in hame adjustments. This is something we have sucked at for too long.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 1:07 pm to boxcar willie
Said differently, I’d prefer a young, up and comer than a pricey big name....
I’d rather see a legend made here, rather than trying to buy one...
I’d rather see a legend made here, rather than trying to buy one...
Posted on 11/9/21 at 1:17 pm to boxcar willie
The logic here is that they haven’t reached their full potential yet and the tier one coaches have probably showed you all their tricks. I get it but you must also acknowledge any of them would be more of a gamble
Posted on 11/9/21 at 2:56 pm to Out da box
quote:
Said differently, I’d prefer a young, up and comer than a pricey big name....
I’d rather see a legend made here, rather than trying to buy one...
I agree 100%
Posted on 11/9/21 at 3:01 pm to JPLSU1981
Home run hires that met expectations
-Saban/Alabama
-Urban/Ohio State
-Spurrier/South Carolina (arguably)
Still think we should shoot for an established coach.
-Saban/Alabama
-Urban/Ohio State
-Spurrier/South Carolina (arguably)
Still think we should shoot for an established coach.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 3:01 pm to boxcar willie
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To me they just seem like much safer pics
What makes them safer picks? The fact that they'll command less money, even though we'd get out of any buyout with any coach if we wanted to move on?
You guys act like it's your money. It's booster money.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 3:26 pm to Goldrush25
That's why you've got to study everything each coach does. His program. Is he above average to great or sorry as sand when it comes to the massive challenge of organizing and running a corporation like LSU. How does he get along with his players? Will they play for him or play dead, as we've seen LSU do this year? If you can find those and more great qualities in Campbell, Aranda, Napier, Tucker then that's great. Find the coach with gold in his skills. Not his name.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 3:29 pm to lsusa
You absolutely know nothing about the sport or what it takes to be a coach. You have zero contact with any college coaches, players etc. could be the most ignorant take I’ve seen so far..
Posted on 11/9/21 at 3:32 pm to lsusa
Yeah, go with familiarity, let THAT be what puts him “on this level”…that’s the reason you’re in this mess dummy. “He’s one of us..”… ring a bell?
Posted on 11/9/21 at 3:50 pm to boxcar willie
Would rather one of the 2nd tier more than Jimbo.
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