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Do Colts fans really want a new HC?

Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:23 am
Posted by GoldenTiger85
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:23 am
Isn't this the same coach who went to the Super Bowl less than 2 years ago? The coach who had en elite QB get injured, lowering team morale to an all time low? He might not be Bill Belicheck, but I think it'd be a travesty to see this guy get fired.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
24701 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:24 am to
there coach isn't the coach of that team. Peyton Manning is the on field coach.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
33915 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:29 am to
quote:

Isn't this the same coach who went to the Super Bowl less than 2 years ago? The coach who had en elite QB get injured, lowering team morale to an all time low? He might not be Bill Belicheck, but I think it'd be a travesty to see this guy get fired.

Someone needs to be fired. General Manager, coach, someone. There are a lot of teams that have much worse quarterbacks than the Colts. Many of those teams have lost QBs due to injury. Most of those teams still field a competitive, competent looking team.

This is a peek into what the Colts will be like when Manning is gone for good. They'd be smart to go ahead and get rid of whatever idiots have put them in this situation.
Posted by Cold Pizza
Member since Sep 2011
7639 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:31 am to
SoSo adapt around it. Caldwell should get the 1st half of next season to turn it around, Manning or not.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:16 am to
I think a new general manager would be a great idea though.. look at the rest of their team.. they should be much better off not having to worry about a QB in the first few rounds the last 12 years..
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65594 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:44 am to
quote:

Isn't this the same coach who went to the Super Bowl less than 2 years ago? The coach who had en elite QB get injured, lowering team morale to an all time low? He might not be Bill Belicheck, but I think it'd be a travesty to see this guy get fired.


I could have stood on the sidelines and allowed Peyton to do his thing all the way to the Super Bowl. The only bit of coaching that Jim Caldwell did that season was to bench his starters and kill the shot at a perfect season.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29421 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 12:14 pm to
Colts fan here. I like Caldwell because for the most part, he doesn't screw with Peyton or the offense. We need a new DC in a bad way. GM too probably. We draft well in later rounds, but miss on high picks IMO. Some of it is luck though. Gonzo is a good receiver for the offense, but he's too injury prone.

Idk what direction we need to go honestly.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
33915 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 12:34 pm to
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We draft well in later rounds, but miss on high picks IMO.


Here's Indianapolis' l1st round draft picks since 1998:

1998 Peyton Manning
1999 Edgerrin James
2000 Rob Morris
2001 Reggie Wayne
2002 Dwight Freeney
2003 Dallas Clark
2004 NO PICK
2005 Marlin Jackson
2006 Joseph Addai
2007 Anthony Gonzalez
2008 NO PICK
2009 Donald Brown
2010 Jerry Hughes
2011 Anthony Caston

That's a pretty good success rate.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36333 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 1:59 pm to
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I could have stood on the sidelines and allowed Peyton to do his thing all the way to the Super Bowl.


All of these coaches could have.






Maybe even on of these guys could have:






Probably not these guys though:

Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3742 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 2:11 pm to
The Colts have gotten a pass on poor defense/personel decisions because Manning has constantly bailed them out every year. They've been exposed this year and at the very least it's time for a new GM.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

That's a pretty good success rate


It was a pretty good success rate early, but they've missed on pretty much every first round pick since 2003. Most of these guys didn't contribute anything at all:

quote:

2004 NO PICK
2005 Marlin Jackson
2006 Joseph Addai
2007 Anthony Gonzalez
2008 NO PICK
2009 Donald Brown
2010 Jerry Hughes
2011 Anthony Caston


All of those guys other than Addai were basically terrible. And while Addai was pretty good for them his first few seasons, he's been pretty bad recently.
This post was edited on 11/22/11 at 2:16 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61082 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

Someone needs to be fired


quote:

General Manager


He's been living off reputation for a while, he's done a terrible job of drafting of late and it shows. I doubt they'd be winless if Manning was healthy, but they would not have made the playoffs and done no better than 6, maybe 8 wins.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 3:11 pm to
Caldwell doesn't do shite. Peyton Manning had what I call the Brett Favre-effect.

Brett was so good at Southern Miss he made Curely Hallman look great (and we paid the price).

Manning is so good, he made his average RB's and average WR's (minus Wayne) look good. He also won DESPITE an average defense (minus Freeney).

Now that he is gone, the team is showing it's true colors.
Just imagine if Manning had a stacked team. Imagine if he was on the 49ers? Crabtree, V Davis, and Ginn Jr would be tearing it up and with that defense they might not lose a game.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179940 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 3:16 pm to
caldwell was a walking puppet.
Posted by ThugginItandLovinIt
Member since Aug 2011
840 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 3:56 pm to
A potato >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Caldwell
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108752 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 7:03 pm to
It's time they got rid of mcelwain in Indy . He's ruinednwhat dungy built there. They need a change
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