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re: Convince me why LSU would not be in same position
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:23 pm to Coon
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:23 pm to Coon
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what school has/had hc's and coord's lining up for them?
Not literally, of course, but Texas would IMO.
USC too, if they didn't have pending NCAA sanctions hanging over their heads. Probably Florida. Don't know about Ohio State. Probably less than 5, and to my dismay, LSU is not one of them. Again, only my opinion.
This post was edited on 1/14/10 at 8:25 pm
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Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:27 pm to Jimmie the Geek
LSU will find out next season.
ETA: Or once Rich Rodriguez leaves Michigan.
ETA: Or once Rich Rodriguez leaves Michigan.
This post was edited on 1/14/10 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:30 pm to drizztiger
I'm not going to go into details about why Geek is wrong here until after National Signing Day is over.
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:35 pm to Champagne
So you are saying it would be different at LSU. Look forward to your explanation after NSD. I want you to be right, but need convincing.
You see how it can be when you have a civil discussion with out attacking others? Gald you came around.
You see how it can be when you have a civil discussion with out attacking others? Gald you came around.
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:42 pm to Jimmie the Geek
frick you geek
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:49 pm to supatigah
Funny Stupa. My superpowers can't hurt you.
But why don't you add some intelligent insight to the discussion, assuming you are capable.
What are your thoughts?
But why don't you add some intelligent insight to the discussion, assuming you are capable.
What are your thoughts?
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:55 pm to Jimmie the Geek
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You see how it can be when you have a civil discussion with out attacking others?
Now why would I want to attack a faithful, loyal LSU Tiger fan like you? You're a guy that would never say or do anything that would disrespect or hurt LSU in any way, right? Except for this thread, right?
Posted on 1/14/10 at 9:00 pm to ClayW
Beamer's early teams were known as the "Chokies" because of Beamer's poor game management costing them in close games. Just sayin'.
Posted on 1/14/10 at 9:05 pm to Jimmie the Geek
I remember Skip saying something along the lines "we will pay Miles 1.x Million because he has not yet earned the top notch pay that Saban commands with his NC win"
Maybe the current AD might be willing to pay big bucks - but considering that he is from Duke and has not had to make a similar decision with the BB program, it is anybody's guess if we will go the Bama/Saban route or the LSU/Saban/Miles route.
Regarding the main issue - I think that it all comes down to the money and timing. If a decision to hire a coach is made well in advance and if we are willing to pay and support it with the necessary facilities upgrades and changes (if necessary) that the coach wants, then we should be able to get a good coach.
If either of this , the timing or pay, is not optimal then we are going to have to take a chance on a hit/miss.
Maybe the current AD might be willing to pay big bucks - but considering that he is from Duke and has not had to make a similar decision with the BB program, it is anybody's guess if we will go the Bama/Saban route or the LSU/Saban/Miles route.
Regarding the main issue - I think that it all comes down to the money and timing. If a decision to hire a coach is made well in advance and if we are willing to pay and support it with the necessary facilities upgrades and changes (if necessary) that the coach wants, then we should be able to get a good coach.
If either of this , the timing or pay, is not optimal then we are going to have to take a chance on a hit/miss.
Posted on 1/14/10 at 9:07 pm to Champagne
How is this thread attacking LSU? Help me make the connection. If anything, it is me warning those who think the best coaches in the world want to work for LSU. I doubt that and point to 2004 as proof. Tenn and Ga are struggling to find coaches and that could easliy happen to LSU. The grass is not always greener on the other side. There is something to stability. Programs have their ups and downs over time. Now, I'm am not advocating keeping Miles or firing Crowton. My only point was be careful what you wish for.
We can disagree w/o the "frick you" response. This isn't personal so don't make it that way.
We can disagree w/o the "frick you" response. This isn't personal so don't make it that way.
Posted on 1/14/10 at 9:10 pm to Jimmie the Geek
Hell, forget Tenn, look at usC. They were turned down several times, and then went with Kiffin.
USC is the top job in the country (see ESPN). Kiffin???? Where are all those guys lining up, that would do the same for the LSU job??? (and dont give me sanctions BS. LSU is under investigation too)
Folks trying to force Miles out, have no idea whats at the end of that rainbow
USC is the top job in the country (see ESPN). Kiffin???? Where are all those guys lining up, that would do the same for the LSU job??? (and dont give me sanctions BS. LSU is under investigation too)
Folks trying to force Miles out, have no idea whats at the end of that rainbow
Posted on 1/14/10 at 9:34 pm to RobbBobb
Forcing out Miles now is equivalent to -In this day and economy if a person decided to quit (without lining up a better job or knowing if there are folks definitely willing to hire out there) because he/she felt that the neighbor had a better job.
Posted on 1/14/10 at 9:37 pm to ForeLSU
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Tenn took a chance in dumping Fulmer and hiring Kiffen, and they're paying the price.
The more I see these firings for "up and comers" the more I lean to relying on consistency/stability rather than just turning over a new stone at the first sign of moss.
Posted on 1/14/10 at 9:39 pm to OBUDan
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The more I see these firings for "up and comers" the more I lean to relying on consistency/stability rather than just turning over a new stone at the first sign of moss.
The only issue from the fans would be this - due to sheer probability , one of these coaches is bound to click and the program would go on a sudden upswing.
Then voila - rationality and common sense go out the window once again - and we start the hiring /firing/resigning talks once again.
Posted on 1/14/10 at 9:41 pm to CalTiger
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The only issue from the fans would be this - due to sheer probability , one of these coaches is bound to click and the program would go on a sudden upswing.
Then voila - rationality and common sense go out the window once again - and we start the hiring /firing/resigning talks once again.
i.e. Urban Meyer.
Posted on 1/14/10 at 11:24 pm to Jimmie the Geek
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We can disagree
I disagree, Geek. I disagree with all of your points.
It's a bad thread. What's going on with TN and GA have nothing to do with LSU. Why you conflate what's going on with TN and GA and somehow, through pure speculation, connect it to a hypothetical situation in which LSU makes a coaching change . . . the connection is too attenuated . . it makes no sense . . . it's INCOHERENT.
It's bad timing, too. People bashed Coach Miles and Coach Crowton. So you start a thread saying that you want to be convinced that LSU would have no trouble replacing one or both? Why pick a fight with fellow LSU fans less than a month before NSD? Seems like you are INVITING people to bash Coach Miles and Coach Crowton.
I said frick you because I thought you were trolling, as in, a Bammer or something like that trying to stir up shite. My point is that this is a REALLY goofy idea for a thread.
In closing, you are wrong about LSU struggling to find replacements for either Coach Miles OR Crowton, should either of them choose to take another job. Sure, if they took other jobs RIGHT NOW, it would be tough, but, if LSU would have fired Coach Miles the day after the Ole Miss game, LSU would have another HC in place that would be a fine replacement for Coach Miles . . . FINE replacement, not just adequate.
Good day, Sir !
Posted on 1/15/10 at 12:09 am to Champagne
Geez, Champagne, where do I start?? I sense the anger oozing from your pores. So worked up about internet talk.
Others have joined the discussion in an intelligent and civilized manner, so some may disagree.
I agree to some extent, but some on this board say fire Miles and Crowton as recently as this week. If you put away the hate for a few minutes and give me just a little benefit of the doubt, you may see my point a little clearer...NOW is not the time to fire Miles and the grass is NOT ALWAYS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE, and to make my point I give you exhibit (A) Tenn, (B)GA, and (C) could also point to USC but give them the benefit of the doubt b/c of the pending sanctions.
Really? Is it in light of the trouble Tenn, GA, and presumately USC had with filling coaching positions. I thought the timing was dead on.
Dude, you are so off base with this comment, I'm not even sure how to respond. This thread was started to invite internet conversation and to see if others see it as I do. Firing Miles may be a risky proposition. I don't know one way or the other. Just was curious to see others take on it.
Actually, the direct opposite. I want people to back off based on recent events.
I disagree based on recent events.
May I am, maybe I am not. It appears no one but you know for sure.
I knew you'd come around.
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It's a bad thread.
Others have joined the discussion in an intelligent and civilized manner, so some may disagree.
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What's going on with TN and GA have nothing to do with LSU.
I agree to some extent, but some on this board say fire Miles and Crowton as recently as this week. If you put away the hate for a few minutes and give me just a little benefit of the doubt, you may see my point a little clearer...NOW is not the time to fire Miles and the grass is NOT ALWAYS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE, and to make my point I give you exhibit (A) Tenn, (B)GA, and (C) could also point to USC but give them the benefit of the doubt b/c of the pending sanctions.
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It's bad timing, too.
Really? Is it in light of the trouble Tenn, GA, and presumately USC had with filling coaching positions. I thought the timing was dead on.
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Why pick a fight with fellow LSU fans less than a month before NSD?
Dude, you are so off base with this comment, I'm not even sure how to respond. This thread was started to invite internet conversation and to see if others see it as I do. Firing Miles may be a risky proposition. I don't know one way or the other. Just was curious to see others take on it.
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Seems like you are INVITING people to bash Coach Miles and Coach Crowton.
Actually, the direct opposite. I want people to back off based on recent events.
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My point is that this is a REALLY goofy idea for a thread.
I disagree based on recent events.
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In closing, you are wrong about LSU struggling to find replacements for either Coach Miles OR Crowton, should either of them choose to take another job
May I am, maybe I am not. It appears no one but you know for sure.
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Sure, if they took other jobs RIGHT NOW, it would be tough
I knew you'd come around.
This post was edited on 1/15/10 at 1:14 am
Posted on 1/15/10 at 12:12 am to ForeLSU
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- incredible fan base who loves their coaches unconditionally
- administration that has always been willing to hire top-paid coaches
Posted on 1/15/10 at 1:57 am to Jimmie the Geek
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it is me warning those who think the best coaches in the world want to work for LSU.
No one but the rantards think Cowher, Gruden or Dungy would drop everything and come rushing to LSU.
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point to 2004 as proof
Even before the search Skip had decided and announced the new coach would not be paid Saban-like salary. That right there made us "settle" for someone in the $1.5 mill range. And I remember Del Rio did express interest back then but Skip or the search firm goofed it up.
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Tenn and Ga are struggling to find coaches
Tenn is struggling purely bcos Kiffin's departure was unexpected and the cream of the crop have already been scooped up or have signed extensions.
Posted on 1/15/10 at 3:53 am to Jimmie the Geek
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Convince me why LSU would not be in same position
as Tenn and GA if we needed a new head coach or OC/DC
I can't, because we would be in exactly the same position.
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