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Cignetti, Lee, Elko, Day, Smart, etc

Posted on 10/26/25 at 12:25 pm
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4891 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 12:25 pm
Were not big name hires when they were hired. However, they have been successful coaches.

I’m no longer a fan of big name coaches. You over pay. You have the same shot choosing a big name coach as some who doesn’t have the name. The days of finding the next Nick Saban is over. I think coaches shelf life is 4-5 years now. It’s a different world.

You look four years ago, Lincoln Riley, Kelly, Napier, etc. none of them had succes. cignetti has.

No one had a better resume than Kelly.

I think paying a lot of money for a guy like Kiffin is foolish. He was the disappointment last year. He went for it on his own 25 against OU which could have cost him that game. By the way, that was his first road victory over a top 25 team.

I think you do your due diligence and try to find that driven guy for success. You want to pay the big money to keep him (second contract) vs the big money to hire him or fire him.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
74011 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:02 pm to
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You have the same shot choosing a big name coach as some who doesn’t have the name

Well that’s inaccurate
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:28 pm to
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I’m no longer a fan of big name coaches. You over pay. You have the same shot choosing a big name coach as some who doesn’t have the name. The days of finding the next Nick Saban is over. I think coaches shelf life is 4-5 years now. It’s a different world.


Ive been saying this same thing for years. Get the guy who has some grey hairs, has learned a few hard lessons and will take the job as a challenge, not as a winning lottery ticket
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117061 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:30 pm to
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No one had a better resume than Kelly.


This.

Need to find a young, smart, hungry coach.

Like Saban in 1999
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4598 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:32 pm to
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Well that’s inaccurate



Its not.

The most successful coaching pool by actual success rate is hiring top-end coordinators.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25869 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:33 pm to
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Get the guy who has some grey hairs, has learned a few hard lessons and will take the job as a challenge


So Brian Kelly?
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6419 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:39 pm to
Okay, but Napier doesn't belong in the Riley/Kelly category.
He was a sunbelt coach, just like Cignetti (and Malzahn and Freeze).
Sometime it works, sometime it doesn't.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:40 pm to
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Were not big name hires when they were hired.


What?

Elko, Day, and Smart were all huge names
Posted by Wichita Co Tiger
Texas
Member since Apr 2023
3939 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:42 pm to
Elko was most definitely not a huge name. He’s doing a nice job at atm but let’s not act like they’ve beaten anyone.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:30 pm to
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So Brian Kelly?


Maybe...it didnt work out for LSU but they will pay a huge pricetag for it. My point is not lure a guy with a huge salary, but to lure a guy with the opportunity to earn one.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:31 pm to
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Elko was most definitely not a huge name.


What revisionist history
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
74011 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 3:43 pm to
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The most successful coaching pool by actual success rate is hiring top-end coordinators.

For every Cignetti there are 10 guys that flame out in 3 years.
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