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Cam to LSU > Weis to UF ?

Posted on 1/17/11 at 9:35 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 1/17/11 at 9:35 am
The Weis to UF hire has been heralded as a huge pick up for the Gators. Although I think it will be interesting seeing Weis adapt his scheme to guys like Burton, I too think the hire was a homerun. If LSU was able to attract Cam Cameron, would that hire upstage Weis? In this board's opinion, would hiring Cameron have a bigger impact on the SEC than Weis?

Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
19253 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 9:38 am to
No. WTF are you smoking to think that?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163143 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 9:39 am to
Oh boy
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46979 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Cameron have a bigger impact on the SEC than Weis?

yes, as far as immediate impact goes

quote:

Cam to LSU > Weis to UF ?


absolutely not
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 9:45 am to
quote:

No. WTF are you smoking to think that?



So you believe LSU will not be able to stay with UF in terms of offense because Cam Cameron is inferior to Charlie Weis as an offensive coordinator?

FWIW, I appreciate the audacity to say "No" and then insult the OP without bringing any substance to your post. People like yourself make things on this board so enjoyable for the rest of us.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 9:49 am to
god yes. i dont buy into weiss at all. hes an arrogant arse who has never accomplished anything without tom brady.
Posted by Survivor 2010
Member since Dec 2007
2713 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 9:52 am to
quote:

i dont buy into weiss at all. hes an arrogant arse who has never accomplished anything without


I disagree. Under Weis, the offense was never the problem at Notre Dame. Also, the offense was pretty decent at KC this year. Had Miles hired Weis as our OC, I would be thrilled.
Posted by Malaysian Tiger
Manila
Member since May 2008
4732 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 9:52 am to
Weis did not set the world on fire at ND. He was great with Brady but who not be???
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/17/11 at 9:53 am to
In name, probably not.
In coaching ability, I think so.

ETA: I think both are really good offensive coaches, but I prefer Cam.
This post was edited on 1/17/11 at 9:54 am
Posted by RightKindaGuy
Member since Aug 2010
1197 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 9:55 am to
actually besides the year clausen was freshmen, notre dames offense were consistently in the top 10/20 in the country. the offense was never the problem for ND.

Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4891 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 9:57 am to
quote:

So you believe LSU will not be able to stay with UF in terms of offense because Cam Cameron is inferior to Charlie Weis as an offensive coordinator?


it's a wash, both are excellent o.c.'s that have performed well at both levels. one isn't greater than the other. they are both very good.
This post was edited on 1/17/11 at 10:05 am
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21655 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 9:58 am to
We just need someone who can run an effective offense that is consistent. If you consider that a team, on average, has the ball 10 times per game and should average around 65-70 plays per game, if we can average 6-7 yards per play and score on half our possessions, that's 35 ppg and about 400 yards per game. If we can do that, with our defense, we'll be really hard to beat. So, we aren't talking about having to be perfect and score a touchdown every play. Just be consistent and execute well with the athletes we have. That's what I'm looking for.
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
17942 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Fire Gary Crowton. Now.


Maryland just hired him and you already want him fired?
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27846 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 10:02 am to
quote:


actually besides the year clausen was freshmen, notre dames offense were consistently in the top 10/20 in the country. the offense was never the problem for ND.



Ummm...during Jimmy's sophomore season, the Notre Dame offense was held to 7 points on the road at MSU, zero points on the road at BC and 3 points on the road at USC.
Posted by islstl
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2006
794 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 10:04 am to
quote:

We just need someone who can run an effective offense that is consistent. If you consider that a team, on average, has the ball 10 times per game and should average around 65-70 plays per game, if we can average 6-7 yards per play and score on half our possessions, that's 35 ppg and about 400 yards per game. If we can do that, with our defense, we'll be really hard to beat. So, we aren't talking about having to be perfect and score a touchdown every play. Just be consistent and execute well with the athletes we have. That's what I'm looking for.


But with the immense amount of talent that we recruit on the offensive side of the ball, why settle for 35 points and 400 yards of offense?

This team should be about where we were in 2007 (40 pts and 425 yards), year in and year out.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 10:13 am to
quote:

actually besides the year clausen was freshmen, notre dames offense were consistently in the top 10/20 in the country.


his rankings are all over the map, theres nothing consistent about them, even though notre dame only plays 2 or 3 good teams a year.

(note - in 2007, because of a few ties, he was actually second to last and dead last in the NCAA)

2005
scoring offense: 37ppg (8th)
total offense: 477ypg (10th)

2006
scoring offense: 31ppg (16th)
total offense: 389 (23rd)

2007
scoring offense: 16ppg (116th)
total offense: 242ypg (119th)

2008
scoring offense:25ppg (56th)
total offense: 355ypg (65th)

2009
scoring offense: 30ppg (32nd)
total offense: 451ypg (8th)
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46745 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 10:21 am to
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6204 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 10:23 am to
quote:

In name, probably not.
In coaching ability, I think so

this



and izzy, i would stab a baby otter through the heart for 35 pts a game.
Posted by RightKindaGuy
Member since Aug 2010
1197 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 10:25 am to
2005 - 8th
2006 - 16th
2009 - 8th

like i said in the top 10/20 besides jimmy's early years when ND was rebuilding after ty willinghams terribly ranked recruiting classes.
Posted by trex1230
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2010
1318 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 10:27 am to
Weis is a filthy animal with a disgusting FUPA but he is a good OC. He is really improved KC this year.
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