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re: Breiden Fehoko on Kelvin Sheppard
Posted on 10/27/25 at 1:45 pm to The Hurricane
Posted on 10/27/25 at 1:45 pm to The Hurricane
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It’s a very risky hire because he’d be dependent on a lot of coaches he had no personal ties to or holdovers fans would question.
I dont see it as that much more risky than any other hire. College coaches have a pretty low hit rate, at least you would be getting someone that knows how to play/train and by extension coach at an elite level. Also could almost guarantee he would work his arse off and be pretty loyal to the university. What guarantees would you get with someone like Surmil, his process will either translate to the next level at a major program or it wont and will end up like napier, that to me seems like even more of a roll of the dice.
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 1:52 pm to The Pirate King
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I'm sure he's a good defensive coordinator, but I'm pretty sure this is just his first season as DC. College head coach requires a whole lot more of you than an NFL DC.
Have him hire the best available OC and it would be interesting
Posted on 10/27/25 at 1:54 pm to ipodking
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Shep went from director of player personnel at LSU in 2020 to NFL defensive coordinator in five years?!?!?!
Talk about a rise. Think about what he can do as a head coach on that time
he was a linebackers coach for 4 years and got promoted to DC when their DC got hired as a HC. It's not quite the meteoric rise you're making it out to be. Hope he does well, but he is far too inexperienced as a coach, in general, especially not ever having coached at the college level to be handed a major head coaching job.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 1:55 pm to lsu777
Nobody is going to be a sure thing. But at least you can statistically help your chances by going with somebody with a proven track record instead of a complete unknown. The transition from being a good positions coach in the NFL to being a good HC in the SEC is nowhere near a given. To take that chance would be idiotic. Also all the people you listed had college experience at high levels before they became a HC.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 1:56 pm to lsufball19
Look where experience has gotten LSU since 2019. A bunch of 3-4-5 loss seasons
Posted on 10/27/25 at 1:57 pm to The Pirate King
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We're teetering on the edge of irrelevancy.
No we aren’t.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 1:57 pm to TexasTiger_08
I would like it. But he’s down the list if 4-5 guys turn us down hard IMO.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:06 pm to KiwiHead
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Look where experience has gotten LSU since 2019. A bunch of 3-4-5 loss seasons
so because Kelly didn't work out, that means we should do the exact opposite?
Saban retired, Alabama hired a coach who went to the CFP finals with Washington
When Tom Herman was fired, Texas hired a guy who had been a HC at Washington and USC and had served as the OC under Nick Saban
When Urban Meyer was relived/fired, Ohio State promoted from within. That guy had spent nearly 20 years coaching in college and the NFL.
When Miami fired their coach, they hired Oregon's head coach
When Miami hired Cristobol from Oregon, Oregon hired a guy who had been coaching at the college level for over 10 years with stops and Alabama and Georgia.
When UGA fired Richt, they hired a guy with 15 years under Bobby Bowden ands Nick Saban
Can you name a major program that has hired a guy with less than 5 years total experience coaching at any level to be their head coach?
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:07 pm to LARancher1991
Really? The poaching game of experienced big name coaches hasn't exactly worked out for us or anyone else. USC poaches Riley from Oklahoma.....is USC any closer to relevancy? Miami poached Cristobal from Oregon and thus far he's only prover to be slightly better than good A&M poached Fisher from FSU, Fisher did nothing for A&M.....hell, going back a generation or two....Tuberville is poached by Auburn......Auburn does not win a NC on his watch.
So tell me that recruiting a top tier coach benefits. I'm not seeing it. I'd be good with getting a G5 coach, but the vagigis on this board would howl....so bad
So tell me that recruiting a top tier coach benefits. I'm not seeing it. I'd be good with getting a G5 coach, but the vagigis on this board would howl....so bad
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:08 pm to Honest Tune
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Didn’t Kelvin have like 146 tackles in a game for us one time?
Kevin Minter vs UF, 25 tackles and missed 10 mon game time for cramps
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:08 pm to FLObserver
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Yeah i believe he recorded 1,000 or so tackles that year. If that isnt HC material then what is?
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:08 pm to The Hurricane
Yeah and there's another big name I think its spelled K I R B Y S M A R T.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:10 pm to Lester Earl
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Has never made a hire
Has never recruited
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Experience
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You don’t think there is a difference between someone that is a career coach vs a guy who has been a coach for 4years?
there is and your worry about experience with the above is very valid. I meant cant say no experience as a HC because those havent been working out at any higher frequency than any other.
NIL is more the GM role now
I dont get the Defensive coach comment, are you wanting only Offensive coaches?
FTR Im not pro KS or anti.....but I am anti saying it must be a big name and must be cheap....those dont work together
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:11 pm to TexasTiger_08
Give him an interview if for nothing more than to plant the seed for the future should that time arise.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:13 pm to LARancher1991
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Nobody is going to be a sure thing. But at least you can statistically help your chances by going with somebody with a proven track record instead of a complete unknown.
is it better chance? what big name hire from another school went on to have way more success at the next? im not talking small to big school. Im talking P4 to P4.
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The transition from being a good positions coach in the NFL to being a good HC in the SEC is nowhere near a given.
and im ok with saying this. 100% ok with that.
Im fine with saying we want someone that had been at the college level a long time. and of course lane, dan lanning would be my first calls. but there are other great candidates at lesser/smaller schools and that are coordinators.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:13 pm to TexasTiger_08
We hired Kelly and it didnt work out.
I would be fine with Sheppard after he answers if he puts tomatoes in the gumbo.
O went from DL coach to HC. Terrible at Ole Miss and was HC for 2019.
Will say not a fan of Kiffin
I would be fine with Sheppard after he answers if he puts tomatoes in the gumbo.
O went from DL coach to HC. Terrible at Ole Miss and was HC for 2019.
Will say not a fan of Kiffin
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:14 pm to lsufball19
You made my point. Just no Patricia, he's a disaster of a head coach waiting to happen.
I don't have a problem with assistants, but the crap of trying to get an established bigger name head coach to come here has not worked out
I would not say that Cristobal has been a plus for Miami.
The Sark hire was not good for USC or Sark.
I don't have a problem with assistants, but the crap of trying to get an established bigger name head coach to come here has not worked out
I would not say that Cristobal has been a plus for Miami.
The Sark hire was not good for USC or Sark.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:39 pm to The Pirate King
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We're teetering on the edge of irrelevancy
This is not true given the current NIL environment.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:45 pm to lsu777
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are you wanting only Offensive coaches?
Yes
If Kelvin Sheppard didn’t go to lsu, no one would be pushing for him. That isn’t to diminish what he has done. But he not only has little experience as a coach, he has held very little responsibility that would transfer over to running a huge CFB program like lsu
I mean look at the steps Sumrall has had to take to get where he is at. And the ripper are still not sure what he is, and he has major skins on the wall.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 2:49 pm to The Pirate King
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don't know that LSU can afford to go this route. We're teetering on the edge of irrelevancy.
This is so stupid and overblown. Lsu was just ranked In the top 10 multiple times. If they won those games we wouldn't even be here.
Lsu is not on the brink of irrelevancy. You must be a female. So dramatic.
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