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re: Bob stoops has been contacted
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:45 pm to JPLSU1981
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:45 pm to JPLSU1981
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You’re basically saying Mac Brown is a good example of why Bob Stoops to LSU would work. Yet again, agree to disagree. By that logic, we should give Mac a look too?
Lmfao. Ok it’s official, earlier I used the word uninformed; but now youre right, I should’ve said you’re a dumbass. Do you know how conversations or discussions work? When, where, and how can you even remotely infer that I’m arguing using Brown as an example for stoops at LSU. If you weren’t so dumb, youd realize that all I did was answer your question… you asked me to name a coach, “just one, name just one coach thats ever done that and seen success”; so I named a coach. You then move the goalpost and try to say what he’s done isn’t successful, so I told you why it was successful for UNC’s standards. And after realizing you lost that argument also, you decided to move the goalpost again even further and now you’re saying that I am using Mack Brown as an example of why stoops would be successful at lsu. Seeing how you aren’t intelligent or informed enough to have a legit discussion, I’m going to stop wasting my time. I honestly feel like Ive had more intellectual conversations with my 3 year old.
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:48 pm to Cs
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Stoops has been out of coaching for 5 years.
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In 2020, Stoops was head coach and general manager for the Dallas Renegades of the XFL.[2]
Happy new year 2025 I guess
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:48 pm to JPLSU1981
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Name me one…even One….example of a coach that sits out of college football for 3+ years coming back to have great success.
Gene Stallings
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:51 pm to SaDub225
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For some reason, your mindset/opinion on Stoops is very common. Its kinda shown me that most LSU fans just want the big flashy name, type of hire…. Stoops and his offensive scheme/schemes are often given credit and referenced, when discussing the changed landscape of CFB that we have seen today... He is considered one of the OG’s behind the modernization of the game. His offenses were ahead of their time. Just think of Huepel’s offense at Tennessee, or Riley’s offense at OU, being ran and orchestrated by its originator (hate to use the word “creator” bc I’m sure Stoops adopted it from someone else along the way, and put his own twist on things) … what is everyone’s main complaint about OU? They don’t have a defense… well heck, that won’t be even close to an issue at LSU, with the way that La produces Defensive talent like it’s going out of style… Stoops could come to Baton Rouge, set up his offense And teach it to a HCIW or some predecessor of his choosing and teach them this formula and, wham bam thank you ma’am, we might could finally see some sustainable success.. even with Stoops age being 61; I still think that is only a minor concern. If he was able to come for 3/4 years, that would give him enough time to mentor and teach his philosophies to a HCIW, mirroring exactly how OU did it with him and Riley. Stoops turned a 33 year old guy with no prior head coaching experience, into a household name, showing us that this “experiment”/formula works. And everyone that says he’s been removed from the game to long; are also vastly uninformed. Lincoln Riley, very publicly said last year that they had “hired Stoops out of retirement”. Saying that Stoops was an integral part of Riley’s coaching staff and talking about how Stoops was still mentoring and teaching Riley plenty of things… I also think, ((iirc)) that at one point when OU had popped a few positive Cov-19 test; that Riley had a contingency plan in place that called for Stoops to step up and into Riley’s role if/in case Riley ever had to miss a game. Soo all our fans laughing and rolling their eyes when someone mentions Stoops as a name that should be considered; those “fans” most likely don’t know much about football or either haven’t done their diligent research to form a reliable/credible opinion… IMO
Thanks for the novel Tolstoy.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:52 pm to SaDub225
And that’s precisely the attitude that you started with that ticked me off to begin with… Everyone else is a dumbass and uninformed, unless they agree with you.
You like Stoops. Great
I certainly don’t.
-And no matter where anyone stands on this particular coach doesn’t make them uninformed or a dumbass that doesn’t know football, as you initially asserted to everyone against a Stoops hire
You like Stoops. Great
I certainly don’t.
-And no matter where anyone stands on this particular coach doesn’t make them uninformed or a dumbass that doesn’t know football, as you initially asserted to everyone against a Stoops hire
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:53 pm to JPLSU1981
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would legitimately melt if Bob Stoops is the hire. There’s no possible way that could be the hire right?
one of the winning coaches of all time, and you would melt?
He is only 60
I doubt he is the pick, but Bob Stoops is way better than O and Miles
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:53 pm to Tequila Sunrise
Woody blowing all that college smoke gonna land Brady
Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:38 pm to BZ504
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Not the Kentucky coach?
Amazing it took so long in this thread before someone thought of the guy's own brother??
Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:41 pm to Alt26
Stoops had one NC in like the first or second season at OU and nothing else and he's been out of college coaching a long time.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:44 pm to Tequila Sunrise
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:35 pm to JPLSU1981
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And that’s precisely the attitude that you started with that ticked me off to begin with… Everyone else is a dumbass and uninformed, unless they agree with you.
No not everyone; only you.
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-And no matter where anyone stands on this particular coach doesn’t make them uninformed or a dumbass that doesn’t know football, as you initially asserted to everyone against a Stoops hire
And you’re again twisting words to fit your narrative. Not anyone who doesn’t like Stoops is uninformed or doesn’t know CFB… I said that the fans that think he’s to old or removed from the game, or the ones who think he only knows defense, etc. etc. ((like you))… those are the fans that are misinformed and are only seeing things on a simple surface level and then repeating those complaints before actually knowing and seeing what the guy did during his time… getting one of the coaches who helped shape the CFB that we see today, would be a huge hire… why chase all these other coaches, when one of the original guys who started this new style of football, is available…
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:37 pm to Tequila Sunrise
To do what? Be server at Waffle House!
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:57 pm to S
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“Hey, Bob. Tell me about Lincoln.”
Y’all really think Woodward doesn’t already have his guy? It’s a done deal. You don’t fire O unless you are nearly certain you’ve got at least a handshake deal in place with just some particulars to iron out.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:07 pm to texastigerr
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Stoops had one NC in like the first or second season at OU and nothing else and he's been out of college coaching a long time.
His last game was winning the Sugar Bowl in 2017. And he produced 2 Heisman winners, Mayfield and Murray, off that team. He is till far ahead of almost all other names being tossed around
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:28 pm to JPLSU1981
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Name me one…even One….example of a coach that sits out of college football for 3+ years coming back to have great success.
Arnsparger left LSU and didnt coach again for 6 years. His first year back, the Chargers went 11-5, by his 3rd year they were in the Super Bowl playing the 49ers.
Bill Snyder sat out 3 years, and came back to the same team. Had them ranked in his 3rd year, and won the conf. the next year
Urban Meyer did not coach in '11, '19, '20 and he came back. And many would hire him at LSU today
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 10/20/21 at 8:15 am to SaDub225
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I said that the fans that think he’s to old or removed from the game, or the ones who think he only knows defense, etc. etc. ((like you))… those are the fans that are misinformed
I never said he “only knows defense.” You just made that up. I actually never said anything about his football knowledge. My one and really only criticism of Stoops is the extended absence from CFB.
Look,…. I wouldn’t have picked a fight with you if you would have started with this:
“Look, I understand that many people have concerns about Bob Stoops being out of college football for 5 years. It’s a valid concern and I understand why people would have it. That said, here’s why I think you guys shouldn’t be concerned with his lengthy absence….XYZ reasons”
My entire issue with you was the “our fans don’t know football and are uninformed if they think Bob Stoops being out of the game for 5 years matters.”
For me, it was never about whatever trivial argument you’re trying to have about Bob Stoops, who is without question a legendary coach worthy of sincere consideration for any job. It was the condescending tone that you know football and anyone that might not favor the Bob Stoops hire doesn’t.
I’m willing to make peace and move on though, if you are. It’s not worth arguing over…you said your piece, and I said mine. It’s a football hire, nothing more, there is no need for personal insults. I apologize for getting worked up and picking a fight/argument with you.
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 9:46 am
Posted on 10/20/21 at 8:32 am to Tequila Sunrise
Why did Stoops even leave OU? He was still in his prime. I always assumed he was getting out ahead of some scandal because it was very sudden, when he was around 55. And then he pops up coaching elswhere so apparently wasnt ready to retire.
He was one of the best when he was at OU, in the same league as Saban and Urban. im surprised so many here would be against it. Honestly Stoops seems like a Woodward type hire, and he could start immediately with recruiting. I dont hate it.
He was one of the best when he was at OU, in the same league as Saban and Urban. im surprised so many here would be against it. Honestly Stoops seems like a Woodward type hire, and he could start immediately with recruiting. I dont hate it.
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 8:41 am
Posted on 10/20/21 at 10:29 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
Hes been out too long. His shelf life has passed. No chance Woodie hires a has been.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 10:34 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Why did Stoops even leave OU?
Stoops father was also a coach, and died while coaching. Bob always said that he didnt want to go out that way. His last year he produced the Heisman winner, and had the next winner on his squad too
He has since returned to coaching, and is possibly ready for college again
Posted on 10/20/21 at 10:40 am to grape nutz
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Hes been out too long. His shelf life has passed. No chance Woodie hires a has been.
Would you say the same about Meyer, who sat out 3 years and then coached a terrible nfl team this season? Or is 3 years the cut off?
Stoops sat out 4 years and then coached an xfl team last year. He stopped coaching OU in his prime, not because they were sinking.
Stoops is 60. Saban is 70. i think Urban is 57. Is anybody turning down Urban or Saban? Stoops and Carrol are the only college coaches in the same league as those 2.
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 10:42 am
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