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re: Article on Michigan search...
Posted on 12/9/07 at 2:03 pm to Rocket
Posted on 12/9/07 at 2:03 pm to Rocket
I'm no soothsayer, believe me. I am not an expert analyst or a college football pundit. I am not a reporter who's got the inside track on the college football coaching carousel.
I am a devoted LSU fan trying to remain positive while this UM coaching search, which started as an eddy, grows into a full blown twister.
With that said, I have had "feelings" before that turned out to be fairly accurate. Kentucky, Arkansas, e.g. Ever since Mon, Dec. 3 when I heard Miles interviewed by Mike and Mike, I have had an uneasy feeling. Something didn't sit right after hearing Miles talk.
Hold on, before you go ape on me, I believe this man has integrity that is of the rarest kind these days. But this is not about that.
This is about the chain of events that have been occurring since Dec. 1. Some people believe that destiny is a predetermined thing. That may be true, but the path to that destiny might not be so clear. As events unfold it might seem that one is headed for a certain destiny but in fact, it may have always been some other destiny.
I read the same article that Rocket read and quoted here. My initial reaction is that what I've been feeling all along about this coaching search is probably going on behind the scenes. Regardless of what Miles says about his place here at LSU, I'm sure that he truly would rather be at Michigan. It all might be just a matter of how the chips fall over the next few days and weeks. If the timing works out, and events play out positively for all parties involved (national title, recruiting, dead periods, etc.) then it is very possible that Miles gets his dream, we get ours (NC), Pelini gets his, etc.
Just think about it: all of you are crazy about LSU (or I don't think you'd be here;) really put some thought into placing yourself in Miles shoes; you have a chance to go home, and to go home doing what you love. Surrounded by family, friends, and fellow alumni at the place you love best. Regardless of the money.
I, for one, who by current familial circumstances can't go home, would jump at any possible opportunity outside of that to get BACK HOME. No offer of money could stop me, nor could other people's opnions of me prevent that from happening.
Until UM chooses someone that isn't LM, he is as easily gone as he was two weeks ago.
I am a devoted LSU fan trying to remain positive while this UM coaching search, which started as an eddy, grows into a full blown twister.
With that said, I have had "feelings" before that turned out to be fairly accurate. Kentucky, Arkansas, e.g. Ever since Mon, Dec. 3 when I heard Miles interviewed by Mike and Mike, I have had an uneasy feeling. Something didn't sit right after hearing Miles talk.
Hold on, before you go ape on me, I believe this man has integrity that is of the rarest kind these days. But this is not about that.
This is about the chain of events that have been occurring since Dec. 1. Some people believe that destiny is a predetermined thing. That may be true, but the path to that destiny might not be so clear. As events unfold it might seem that one is headed for a certain destiny but in fact, it may have always been some other destiny.
I read the same article that Rocket read and quoted here. My initial reaction is that what I've been feeling all along about this coaching search is probably going on behind the scenes. Regardless of what Miles says about his place here at LSU, I'm sure that he truly would rather be at Michigan. It all might be just a matter of how the chips fall over the next few days and weeks. If the timing works out, and events play out positively for all parties involved (national title, recruiting, dead periods, etc.) then it is very possible that Miles gets his dream, we get ours (NC), Pelini gets his, etc.
Just think about it: all of you are crazy about LSU (or I don't think you'd be here;) really put some thought into placing yourself in Miles shoes; you have a chance to go home, and to go home doing what you love. Surrounded by family, friends, and fellow alumni at the place you love best. Regardless of the money.
I, for one, who by current familial circumstances can't go home, would jump at any possible opportunity outside of that to get BACK HOME. No offer of money could stop me, nor could other people's opnions of me prevent that from happening.
Until UM chooses someone that isn't LM, he is as easily gone as he was two weeks ago.
Posted on 12/9/07 at 2:05 pm to FredSecunda
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If they feel like they can get him after the National Championship game, I think they will. I think if Miles gives them an indication that he can't make a move until then, they'll wait it out for him. It'd be the only logical move that would save Martin's arse.
I agree, it needs to be Miles or a huge name that will cost them plenty.
Posted on 12/9/07 at 2:36 pm to LSUgrits
It ain't over until they hire another coach.
Posted on 12/9/07 at 3:10 pm to Rocket
I say the chances of him leaving at this point are slim to none with the emphasis on none. crazier things have happened so i won't say no chance. that does not mean michigan won't make another run at him. we have not heard the end of les to um.
Posted on 12/9/07 at 3:58 pm to Rocket
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It's believed that contact has occurred between the sides in the past few days.
Whenever a so-called "journalist" wants to take rank speculation and attempt to elevate it to the realm of the quasi-factual, he will revert to the unattributed passive voice. "It is believed." Believed by whom? The writer? His grandmother? Some random moron among the hundreds of thousands who hold an unsubstantiated opinion about what might be going on? If the author could identify even the existence of the holder of such a belief, he would use the active voice and say something like "I believe," or "My unimpeachable and always reliable source believes." But you see how much easier it is to avoid that annoying detail when the passive voice is used?And what is the basis for this belief? Eyewitness observation of a meeting? Overhearing a phone call that was negligently carried on via speakerphone? And what does "contact occurred" mean? Miles and Martin exchanged Christmas cards? Miles sent in is annual contribution to the M Fund?
The story is a non-story. It didn't deserve to get published in the first place. Surely it doesn't deserve to get quoted, requoted or taken with even a scintilla of seriousness.
Posted on 12/9/07 at 4:48 pm to tigerinridgeland
I have not heard anything out of Ann Arbor today. I wonder what that means.
Posted on 12/9/07 at 4:53 pm to MichiganMan
I don't think it means anything. Payton has said he is not a candidate, never was.
Last night Sporting News Radio said that Michigan was goint to talk to Sarkisian.
Last night Sporting News Radio said that Michigan was goint to talk to Sarkisian.
Posted on 12/9/07 at 6:15 pm to nycajun
All of that still doesn't mean he isn't a candidate for their job.
Posted on 12/9/07 at 6:41 pm to Rocket
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All of that still doesn't mean he isn't a candidate for their job.
I don't need this shite. I wish they'd just hire someone and get it over with. I have exams to procrastinate for.
Posted on 12/9/07 at 6:49 pm to FredSecunda
Oh man, if UM hired someone tomorrow and we announced Tenuta or someone as well for D-coordinator, my stress level would go down.
Posted on 12/9/07 at 7:34 pm to Rocket
Honestly...if Miles were to leave after all of this, would y'all consider it worse than what Nick Saban did comingm to Alabama?
Posted on 12/9/07 at 7:34 pm to Rocket
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Oh man, if UM hired someone tomorrow and we announced Tenuta or someone as well for D-coordinator, my stress level would go down.
Yeah, me too, I'm starting to have doubts about what's going to happen. The sooner Michigan gets someone on board, the better. This will be a huge distraction for LSU if UM drags its heels into the holiday season.
And I would love to hear the news that Tenuta is headed to LSU.
Posted on 12/9/07 at 7:58 pm to BamaScoop
Hey Bama,
I just don't think that Miles would be as hated as Saban was/is. The whole thing re: Saban is that he was truly revered as a rock star/football god here at LSU. The man truly had the fans here eating and believing everything he said up until he left. Hell, most LSU fans still loved the guy when he went to Miami..It wasn't until he went over to Bama that the blind hatred started. For whatever reason, the fans here have never accepted Miles as one of their own like they did Saban. Just my opinion
I just don't think that Miles would be as hated as Saban was/is. The whole thing re: Saban is that he was truly revered as a rock star/football god here at LSU. The man truly had the fans here eating and believing everything he said up until he left. Hell, most LSU fans still loved the guy when he went to Miami..It wasn't until he went over to Bama that the blind hatred started. For whatever reason, the fans here have never accepted Miles as one of their own like they did Saban. Just my opinion
Posted on 12/9/07 at 8:06 pm to NorfolkVATiger
Les Miles has his former teamates rallying to his defence. They are furious at how UM handled the Miles situation. I really thought Miles was a man of honor and wouldn't go back on his word. However, his words are too carefully chosen. I believe he will be gone shortly after the BCS. Not to worry though, there will be some NFL coaches looking for jobs - we have one here in Jax that would probably love to come home to Louisiana.
Posted on 12/9/07 at 8:09 pm to BamaScoop
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Honestly...if Miles were to leave after all of this, would y'all consider it worse than what Nick Saban did comingm to Alabama?
I don't know about me. I know some would. We'd just have to cross that bridge when we get there.
But, I don't know how upset I would be. I know he wants to be back in Ann Arbor and I think the only reason he is still here is because some things didn't work out last weekend. Had they promised him the job last week, I think he would have taken it.
Posted on 12/9/07 at 8:15 pm to Rocket
I would not be mad if Miles left a this point. He has never hidden his loyalties and love for Michigan. He has said what any coach would/should say in his situation. (After all, he didnt even have an offer from Michigan, so he had to speak from the "place" he was/is, as LSU's head coach.)
I think if he were to leave it would be for his dream and I would not blame him.
I think if he were to leave it would be for his dream and I would not blame him.
Posted on 12/9/07 at 8:15 pm to Rocket
I would not be mad if Miles left a this point. He has never hidden his loyalties and love for Michigan. He has said what any coach would/should say in his situation. (After all, he didnt even have an offer from Michigan, so he had to speak from the "place" he was/is, as LSU's head coach.)
I think if he were to leave it would be for his dream and I would not blame him.
I think if he were to leave it would be for his dream and I would not blame him.
Posted on 12/9/07 at 10:52 pm to 1STCoastTiger
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we have one here in Jax that would probably love to come home to Louisiana.
His actual home is California! And his alma mater...USC.
Posted on 12/9/07 at 11:10 pm to MichiganTiger
If any of you had seen the interview the girl on ESPN did with him that Monday after the game you wouldn't be bothering worrying about this.
They got to talking about Michigan and which dorm he lived in and the big snowball fight they have every year and she asked him if there was any chance he might be there for the snowball fight next year. His reply was an unequivocal "No I'll be down here where it's warm playing for conference championships"
Now he could lie. But the man talks about integrity too much from what I've seen for that to be a viable option for him. He may go to Michigan one day, but it's not going to be in '07-'08 and the Michigan people are just making themselves look pathetic holding out hope for it when they need to be throwing Carr in an old folks home without a phone and finding a damn Coach.
Miles isn't going anywhere.
Relax.
They got to talking about Michigan and which dorm he lived in and the big snowball fight they have every year and she asked him if there was any chance he might be there for the snowball fight next year. His reply was an unequivocal "No I'll be down here where it's warm playing for conference championships"
Now he could lie. But the man talks about integrity too much from what I've seen for that to be a viable option for him. He may go to Michigan one day, but it's not going to be in '07-'08 and the Michigan people are just making themselves look pathetic holding out hope for it when they need to be throwing Carr in an old folks home without a phone and finding a damn Coach.
Miles isn't going anywhere.
Relax.
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