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re: Art Briles Offense

Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:31 pm to
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:31 pm to
They use the power run up the middle (primarily and will mix in zone read and counters) to set up the pass by getting one on one coverage on the outside and taking the shots deep.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70178 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:38 pm to
And it really seems simple...pretty sure the coaches read the d and tell them what to run
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64684 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:56 pm to
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Also their receivers rarely pan out in the NFL



Terrence Williams, Kendall Wright, and Corey Coleman say otherwise, and they're doing pretty well in the league right now.
Posted by KyrieElaison
Tennessee
Member since Oct 2014
2639 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:59 pm to
Kendall Wright has underperformed with the Titans.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 7:18 pm to
It is very simple which some people seem to think is a fault. Lots of posters say "they run 4 plays" like that's something that's terrible yet it's still effective despite running just a few plays out of different formations.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 7:18 pm to
He's had one year where he had 94 receptions

Not every WR is going to be a super star
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
18010 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:14 pm to
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In a league that plays no defense


The sec this year wasn't exactly stacked with good defenses.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
92362 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:16 pm to
The Veer and Shoot is predicated on the run, hence the "Veer"

I encourage you guys who aren't familiar with the offense to check out this All 22 tape of all of the offensive plays against Michigan St. game. It's long but you get an idea what's going on. LINK
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
92362 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:22 pm to
Also have some film room stud with a brief breakdown of the offense LINK
Posted by brg0320
Member since May 2009
3295 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:32 pm to
Dude, they ran for over 350 yards per game last season. Only Georgia Sou ran for more yards...what are you talking about?
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
92293 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:47 pm to
Reminds me of mouse Davis' run n shoot. Ace formation 4 wides single back all the time.

Now everybody runs and throws
So much out the shotgun
Posted by TigerCliff777
Member since Feb 2013
4676 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 6:14 am to
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The offense is predicated on power run combined with the spread to use the entire length of the field and force the defense into mismatches. There isn't anytning "gimmicky" about it. Their OL was bigger than every one in the SEC IRCC.


agree

at it's core Briles puts never ending pressure on Line-backers and the safeties

over play the power run option - boom WR / TE wide open

I have a good feeling Briles at OC for about 2 years works his way back into a HC job

I love this system to give Nick hell
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
92362 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 6:43 am to
That's exactly right, Briles actually started with using a Flexbone Run N Shoot offense, sort of like what Houston ran with Andre Ware. What he's done now is modified those concepts into a Spread
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 6:48 am
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29392 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:52 am to
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I've never liked the Baylor offense. It seems gimmicky speed up and throw it downfield. Also their receivers rarely pan out in the NFL ( Kendall Wright) because they haven't learned precision route running. Everyone raved about the Oregon offense until they met an SEC defense. Seems we need a combination power spread and pro style offense. Stay away from a TX high school offense.


A Briles led offense hasn't rushed for less than 44 times per game since 2010. All of our RBs would feast.

They run a lot of 4 and 5 wide that would get all the speedsters we have, in space.

Guys like Scott and Brennan and Harris were made for an offense like that.

Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
92362 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:54 am to
Don't forget. They ran for nearly 400 yards against North Carolina literally without a QB and won the game. One of the more underrated coaching performances
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 9:55 am
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10313 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:57 am to
Doesn't matter Art Briles won't sniff a job at P5 school.
Posted by OrangeBlood
Austin
Member since Sep 2005
802 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:05 am to
It's a great offense that is predicated on smash mouth up-the-gut running. Hence the "veer" part of "veer and shoot." Baylor has run the ball quite well - and part of the reason is that the defense has to account for both dimensions of the field with the threat of the passing game - vertical and horizontal (look where BU's outside receivers line up and run deep slants from). The lack of success of Baylor's QBs/WRs are due to (1) the QB isn't asked to make a lot of pre-snap or in-play reads...NFL doesn't like that; and (2) the WRs don't learn/really run all the routes on the typical NFL route tree.

It would be a great offense for a team like LSU that wants to really control the game on the ground but has the outside athletes to threaten all areas of the field. And it's simplified for the QB (not exactly LSU's strongest position lately). I don't much like the tempo aspect of it but that can be used/not used by preference.

For a modern CFB offense, the BU offense and Ohio State's/UH's offense, i.e., smash mouth spread, are the ways to go. Bama has incorporated a lot of concepts of the latter.


ETA - But since I hate Briles and think LSU is better than that, go find someone else to run it.
Gilbert would probably be the next option but accept that he's a very green play caller.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 10:06 am
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83925 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:16 am to
well whatd ya know, another kyrie thread where he has an opinion on a topic that he has absolutely no clue about or even tries to do any research on.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:18 am to
quote:

I've never liked the Baylor offense

What was it you didn't like? How quickly they scored? How often they scored? The variety of ways in which they scored?
Posted by KyrieElaison
Tennessee
Member since Oct 2014
2639 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:28 am to
Just stating my preference. If it's so great why doesn't everybody ditch the pro style and go with it?
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