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A balanced discussion about Mel Tucker

Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:41 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:41 pm
This board obviously operated in extremes. Tucker is not my number one choice but there’s just as many question marks around Napier and Aranda as there is Tucker.

He’s an outstanding recruiter and his defenses improved each year at UGA. (Before you say that was Kirby keep in mind people said the exact same thing about Kirby when he was at Bama). He also clearly has improved Michigan State in his time there.

That he has a lot of NFL experience can be looked at both positively and negatively, and his track record as a head coach is short, not sure you can take much from
1 year at Colorado or him coming in as a new coach in the covid year.

It would be a risk, but to act like he would be a HORRIBLE hire is, I think, unfair.
Posted by tlsu15
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:43 pm to
Agreed on all points. He’s a risky hire though, and I’m not sure that LSU can afford that right now. We need someone with a high floor.
Posted by Lsuhal
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:44 pm to
Horrible, probably not. But he's 2nd or 3rd tier
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:44 pm to
Youre trolling at this point
Posted by burke985
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:46 pm to
Don't want in any scenario
Posted by bnb9433
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

Mel Tucker

will not be the coach at LSU
Posted by S
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

That he has a lot of NFL experience can be looked at both positively and negatively


His defenses in chicago were abysmal
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:49 pm to
Haven’t we learned that one good season does not a top tier candidate make?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

Haven’t we learned that one good season does not a top tier candidate make?


Did I say he was a top tier candidate
Posted by GeorgeReymond
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:51 pm to
Not my first choice but I’d be fine with him.

College football is 95% recruiting and he excels in that department. Think he could be very successful at LSU but it would definitely be a risky hire based on his limited track record.

But the same thing could be said about the Kirby hire at UGA.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

A balanced discussion about Mel Tucker

Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:53 pm to
Outstanding recruiter because he got guys from the portal ?

There is a huge number of players in the portal right now hoping for a scholarship.

I don't see anything that gives Tucker an advantage over Napier.
Posted by Magician2
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:54 pm to
He could be a Kirby he could be a Pruitt.

It's a coin flip
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:54 pm to
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His defenses in chicago were abysmal


This is true and a fair thing to bring up. Though being an NFL DC and an SEC Head Coach are two totally different jobs.

His defense at Michigan State this year isn’t very good either, though they’ve still won 8 of their 9 games and I think only 2 players are 4 star recruits are better.

That he seems to be ahead of the game on utilizing the transfer portal is a plus.

It would be a coin flip hire, but so would Napier and Aranda.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:55 pm to
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I don't see anything that gives Tucker an advantage over Napier.


I’d be happy with either. If it were up to me I’d slightly lean Napier though.
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:58 pm to
This is a top 3 job.

He has done nothing to warrant even a look at a job of this magnitude.

He will be a .500 coach at seasons end. I’m guessing he will lose 2 of the next 3.

His candidacy is laughable.
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

there’s just as many question marks around Napier and Aranda as there is Tucker.


I agree with this statement.While I don’t want Tucker, there are some things I like about the way he coaches and caries himself on the sideline. He does have some positives but it’s a huge risk because it’s really being based off of this season. Aranda has the advantage of being at LSU for an extended period of time very recently. He’s already familiar with the program and seems to be on the right track at Baylor. I think he has a great future ahead as a head coach whether that’s at LSU or not.

I personally feel like Billy Napier is riskiest hire of them all. I don’t get the love for the guy. He hasn’t really done anything that impressive and he’s being touted as the next great coach. His offenses are unimpressive and he’s never had any kind of control over a major power 5 program. He really hasn’t even been a coordinator for one for an extended period. Fired after one season at Clemson as OC and one year as Co-OC at ASU. Then three years as a WR coach at Bama. Not exactly a striking resume.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 5:00 pm to
Has Tuck given us a % on how much of tProcess he’s using ?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 5:05 pm to
Posted by Genestealer55
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Posted on 11/9/21 at 5:05 pm to
I don’t think it’s too much to ask to see a bigger body of work.

Do I think Tucker would be a “bad” hire? Not really. Do I think he’s even close to the “best” hire? Not really.
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