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In the lord of the rings, do you think the eagles were synonymous with America?

Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:50 am
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 10:50 am
I could be way off base and looking too much into this, but I’ve often wondered if the eagles were almost a metaphor for the USA. Obviously Tolkien based his idea of Mordor from no mans land in his time fighting in world war 1. I’d assume there were other parts of the story that were based at least partially on his wartime experience as well. It got me thinking about the creatures that could drastically change the fate of middle earth if they decided to help but for the large part stayed out of the fight until the very end. Has anybody else noticed this similarity?
Posted by Rockbrc
Attic
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 11:56 pm to
Hmmmm—- -I’ll buy it
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/22/19 at 1:59 am to
quote:

Tolkien based his idea of Mordor from
Battle of the Somme
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 2:02 am
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11070 posts
Posted on 6/22/19 at 8:37 pm to
No
Posted by PetroBabich
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Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:47 pm to
"As for inner meaning or message, it has in the intention of the author none. It is neither allegorical nor topical."
-JRR Tolkien's foreword to the second edition of LOTR.

I.E. No, Mordor is not the Somme. No, eagles are not the United States.
Posted by NastyTiger
Hammond/Baton Rouge/Lafayette
Member since Jun 2005
11271 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:04 am to
Not once did I ever correlate the two.
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1474 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:30 pm to
It’s an interesting thought, but I really don’t think so.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/28/19 at 3:11 pm to
Tolkien wrote in the prologue of one edition I have of The Silmarillion that he HATES allegories. So I would vote no.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

Tolkien wrote in the prologue of one edition I have of The Silmarillion that he HATES allegories. So I would vote no.



I have the same edition. Anyone who is even a casual fan of LOTR must read the Silmarillion. It and its forward explain everything.
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