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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 7/10/15 at 8:36 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 8:36 am to
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Where is the sword Blackfyre is the real question in all this mess.


There seems to be a fetish for these missing swords - Blackfyre, Brightroar, Dark Sister, Lamentation, Orphan-Maker, Truth, Vigilance - all Valyrian, as well as the fabled Dawn and the real Lightbringer (which must bring light AND heat).


I think there is a crackpot theory (maybe in this monster somewhere) that Euron has been secretly rounding up all the missing Valyrian blades - as well as the other crackpot that Dawn=Lightbringer - but there seems to be more of them missing than in hands of current Westerosi - and, in case someone missed the memo - they're going to need these swords -
This post was edited on 7/10/15 at 8:36 am
Posted by studentsect
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:01 am to
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I'm pretty sure Aegon won't be in the show, and therefore probably isn't a major player in the endgame. With only two seasons left, to randomly drop in a new Targaeryen (with a serious claim to the throne) that Hodors have never seen before would be bizarre.

He would need to have been hinted at at some point, and the show has never even tried to mention him as far as I remember.


At this point I expect the fates of the living Starks (+ Jon Snow), Dany, and Tywin's 3 children to be the same in both the show and the books; everything else is up in the air and can be manipulated to get those characters where they need to be.

For instance, even if Aegon does have a major role to play, and it turns out to be important for there to be a random Prince to come out of nowhere and claim the throne, show-Gendry could do it. In fact now that I think about it, with no more living Baratheons I think show-Gendry probably has the best claim to the throne at this point so it wouldn't be that much of a stretch.
This post was edited on 7/10/15 at 9:03 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:12 am to
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In fact now that I think about it, with no more living Baratheons


While Gendry certainly isn't the only surviving bastard - he clearly takes the Edric Storm role in the show - so if any bastard would get play for the throne, it would be him.

But that dastardly proof would be the problem - who with any credibility can say Gendry is Robert's bastard? Davos is about it. And who would listen?

The true Baratheons are gone - the Faux Baratheons are almost gone. Tommen better have eyes in the back of his head. You can't have peace beneath a false crown, baw.
Posted by the smoke monster
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 10:11 am to
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There seems to be a fetish for these missing swords - Blackfyre, Brightroar, Dark Sister, Lamentation, Orphan-Maker, Truth, Vigilance - all Valyrian, as well as the fabled Dawn and the real Lightbringer (which must bring light AND heat).




Jon and Brienne going to take out the entire walker army with Longclaw and Oathkeeper.
Who has the other half of Ice? I guess Tommen got it when Joffrey died? That's a waste
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 10:34 am to
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I guess Tommen got it when Joffrey died?


Yeah - Tommen has Joffrey's sword, "Widow's Wail".

I have a feeling that the Starks end up with both of those swords - Brienne is, for all practical purposes, a Stark knight (ironic considering how we last see her in the books) - when all is said and done, I think that Jon and/or Dany will agree that Tommen's sword (and, seriously, he's a sweet kid, so was Myrcella - how long does he have left?) should be returned to the Starks - if all the swords aren't pressed into service at the wall before then.

(ETA: Rickon should get it.)

(ETA: Maybe Gendry learns the secret of how to forge them? This is the crackpot thread, after all.)

This post was edited on 7/10/15 at 10:37 am
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 11:04 am to
Gendry is rowing to Asshai at this point.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:03 pm to
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Gendry is rowing to Asshai at this point.

Maybe he stopped of and forged him a valyrian steel paddle somewhere along the way.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:07 pm to
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Maybe he stopped of and forged him a valyrian steel paddle somewhere along the way.


I've seen some crackpot (not mine) - that Samwell and Gendry combine to rediscover the secret that - Sam finds it in an old book somewhere, and Gendry puts it into action.

Any evidence Gendry is even near Old Town? That's a lot of rowing, yeah (and that's Edric Storm in the book - wasn't Gendry blacksmithing for semi-bandits when we last saw him?)

Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:14 pm to
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I've seen some crackpot (not mine) - that Samwell and Gendry combine to rediscover the secret that - Sam finds it in an old book somewhere, and Gendry puts it into action.


Problem with that theory is that Gendry sits at the jock table and Sam sits at the nerd table. They never interact.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 7/10/15 at 12:17 pm to
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wasn't Gendry blacksmithing for semi-bandits when we last saw him?)


In Feast yes. He was with them at the Inn at the Crossroad which is around Harrenhal. They are on the wrong side of Westeros from each other.
Posted by lakeviewtiger
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Posted on 7/11/15 at 11:39 am to
Was thinking about all the Red priest resurrections and such. Any chance Azor Ahai is just a warg? Maybe some past hero jumping bodies until the time is right?
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 7/11/15 at 11:53 am to
This post was edited on 7/11/15 at 11:53 am
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 7/11/15 at 11:54 am to
Talking about Pedro?
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 7/11/15 at 12:06 pm to
Guys, Gendry is gone. He was a minor character. I'm not sure why people keep asking about him.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 7/11/15 at 12:06 pm to
I hope so
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 7/11/15 at 12:45 pm to
Apparently she also had a fling with Bronn earlier in the show and they had to be separated on set a couple of times whenever they broke up

Guess she figured that wouldn't happen with a guest star
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 7/11/15 at 12:55 pm to
Bronn needs the bad pussy
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 7/11/15 at 1:12 pm to
No. Her new kid. Haven't you seen Maleficent?
This post was edited on 7/11/15 at 1:13 pm
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 7/11/15 at 3:05 pm to
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Guys, Gendry is gone. He was a minor character. I'm not sure why people keep asking about him.



This is honestly how I see it.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 7/11/15 at 3:07 pm to
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No. Her new kid. Haven't you seen Maleficent? This post was edited on 7/11 at 1:13 pm


No
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