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Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:27 pm to
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I just don't see Cercei regaining power. Not saying it's not possible but I think it's highly unlikely that she does. Zombie Mountain could beat Zombie Hound but I think it's fulfills the Clegane's story if Zombie Hound kills Zombie mountain for what he done to his face. That or they kill each other much like Mountain vs Red Viper.


How is Sandor the Gravedigger a zombie??
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:33 pm to
Anybody see House Starks fb post? It's a pic of Viserys getting his golden crown with the headline "he was no real dragon, fire cannot kill a real dragon".

This is what I was talking about a few pages back about how the show has made everybody soooo confused into thinking that Targs can't be burned
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:35 pm to
Well he's supposed to be dead. Even though technically if he's the Gravedigger that doesn't mean he'd be brought back to life. Honestly all that is getting a little out of hand. Wish some people in the series would die and stay dead. How many characters has GRRM tried to trick the reader into thinking they were dead? After so many it's not really shocking anymore
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:39 pm to
Sandor's main purpose now is 1) Kill UnGregor 2) Get the Little Bird
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:40 pm to
I just saw that too in my newsfeed...I hate how the show did that as well. GRRM has repeatedly stated that Dany and her dragons was a once-in-a-lifetime magical occurrence. Didn't she burn her hands in ADWD?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:14 pm to
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I just don't see Cercei regaining power. Not saying it's not possible but I think it's highly unlikely that she does. Zombie Mountain could beat Zombie Hound but I think it's fulfills the Clegane's story if Zombie Hound kills Zombie mountain for what he done to his face. That or they kill each other much like Mountain vs Red Viper.



Personally I think that the UnGregor is going to greatly work against the Realm at large. I think he'll easily be taken over by the Others once he heads South. The Hound will kill him in open battle at the Trident, not when Cersei faces trial.
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:11 pm to
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Personally I think that the UnGregor is going to greatly work against the Realm at large. I think he'll easily be taken over by the Others once he heads South. The Hound will kill him in open battle at the Trident, not when Cersei faces trial.


Who will fight him at the trial?

I definitely think it's plausible for Cersei to gain power again. I don't think her naked walk is her downfall and it's over
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:38 pm to
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Who will fight him at the trial?


Lancel, shortest fight in history.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:38 pm to
I think Loras will fight Ungregor. It would satisfy Loras' story arc and conclude their skirmish that began at Ned's tourney.

Another guess that I think would be awesome is if it was one or all of the Sand Snakes
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:46 pm to
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I definitely think it's plausible for Cersei to gain power again. I don't think her naked walk is her downfall and it's over


I'd say that her walk of shame will become her "Defiance at Duskendale". Yeah, she's docile now due to the shock of the situation, but when she finds out about what happened to Kevan and Pycelle, she's going to fire up quickly and with no restraint. She showed everything about her to every high born and low born scum in King's Landing, so she won't give a frick about manipulation anymore. She'll have just UnGregor and Qyburn (maybe even adding a pyromancer to her merry crew), and anyone who thinks of defying her will have to answer to one or the other. Top it off that she'll be in doubt to whether it was Tyrion, the Tyrells, or both that killed her uncle and Grand Maester, then she's going to go nuts and forcibly take over.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:36 pm to
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Lancel, shortest fight in history.


I would Lol so hard at this too.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:40 pm to
Lancel could spill his seed on the belly
Posted by tween the hedges
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:02 pm to
I'm so behind in conspiracies. Who is ungregor? Who people think is the unnamed masked new kindsguard guy?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:05 pm to
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I'm so behind in conspiracies. Who is ungregor? Who people think is the unnamed masked new kindsguard guy?



Its for sure him. Qyburn did some sort of socery, and he doesn't eat, drink, breath, piss, shite, or sleep. It's for sure him.
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:22 pm to
Oh ok makes a lot of sense did some googling of it. Was confusing Gregor with Sandor when I originally read it.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 10:41 pm to
On a show rewatch and I can't help but wonder how Tywin's doesn't recognize Arya. I get why they did it differently in the show cause wow it is great television. But surely Tywin would recognize how much Arya resembles Ned and Lyanna
Posted by thatguy1892
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 10:43 pm to
Tywin had never seen Arya before and as far as the show goes she looks nothing like Ned and we have no clue what Lyanna looked like.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 10:44 pm to
Naw. You coud tell he knew she wasnt some Flea Bottom scum but couldnt make the leap to her being a Stark.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 10:53 pm to
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On a show rewatch and I can't help but wonder how Tywin's doesn't recognize Arya. I get why they did it differently in the show cause wow it is great television. But surely Tywin would recognize how much Arya resembles Ned and Lyanna



Why? First off I don't think Tywin ever met Lyanna, and secondly, can you point blank identify any daughter of any person you've met? I don't think that Ned and Tywin met each other for long. Only at the Sack, probably Robert's Wedding, and the Invasion of Pike. Should he be able to instantly recognize his daughter? If anything, Roose should have been more familiar with her than Tywin would have.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 11:01 pm to
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Why? First off I don't think Tywin ever met Lyanna, and secondly, can you point blank identify any daughter of any person you've met? I don't think that Ned and Tywin met each other for long. Only at the Sack, probably Robert's Wedding, and the Invasion of Pike. Should he be able to instantly recognize his daughter? If anything, Roose should have been more familiar with her than Tywin would have.


Agreed. There's no way that Tywin knew she was Arya Stark. He didn't go to Winterfell with the rest of the Lannister Baratheon crew and he wasn't in King's Landing until Blackwater. And as you said, he probably met Ned 3-4 times over the span of 15 years.
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