re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

oops I forgot about this thread. I saw the other, I should have known the trailer was in here. Oh well I'll ask for the anchor.

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new mountain = legit

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Is that the third mountain?

He looks like the season one mountain

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I did some research on this in ASoS. There are a few moments when it appears his inner dragon is stirring. It also reappears when Jon reads Ramsay Snow's letter to him.


Also what are everyone's thoughts about when dany will meet Jon, assuming R+L=J is true?

I think she'll see him as the brother she never had

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I also think that Jon has Targ traits too; he can be a bit hot headed at times and was kind of arrogant when he first went to the Night's Watch when he became Jeor's steward and was beating everyone in training.

1 of 2 things could happen when Dany finds out that Jon is her nephew and meets him:

1) She swoons over him like she did with Drogo and Daario and wants to have his dragon babies

2) She hates him, think he's a Usurper's dog because he was raised by Ned, "I am the real blood of the dragon not him!!!11"

Reread Dany II chapter 27 in ACoK. She shows some attitude and makes me wonder about her ideas of the people of Westeros and the Starks. At that point she has only been told things by Visarys, and when it is told that Ned betrayed Robert Jorah called BS and she flared back that she wouldn't doubt it because he was a "usurpers dog," even though she knows nothing of the man. I'm starting to feel that her judgment is going to get a lot of people killed when/if she reaches Westeros and I don't mean that in a good way for her cause.

Just something I thought I should bring up seeing as y'all are discussing Dany and Jon's first encounter... If it happens.

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And iluvdatiger just passed out.


Although I don't think she'll lash out at Jon. She put up with Visrys shite for years, but all the time was in fatuated with Rhaegar.

If she is hesitant she'll try and test if has targ blood by subjecting him to fire.

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Yeah, Iluv will freak out .

But I honestly don't see the Jany/Jonerys ship sailing. No way that Martin pairs Jon and Dany as a couple . A lot of book fans would HATE it (including me) and I think Martin doesn't want that pairing to happen either. Plus Jon was raised Northern and I don't think he'd ever marry or frick his aunt.

Also, Dany and Jon are neither's type. Jon goes for wild, bold women who keep to the old ways. Dany prefers douches like Daario and Drogo.

If Jon ends up having a wife/queen it'll probably be Val.

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Just something I thought I should bring up seeing as y'all are discussing Dany and Jon's first encounter... If it happens.

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I also see Barristan tempering her judgement. Additionally, Jorah can provide insight into who Ned Stark really was.

The way I see it both dany and Jon need to kill the boy/girl and let the man/woman be born. For both cases that means amending or completely abandoning the world views they grew up with.

In Jon's case it is the overbearing sense of honor and duty at all times and for Dany it's coming into her own and making judgements that go beyond the world Visrys exposed her to.

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I think Jon has done that.


Dany on the other hand is still a petulant little shite of a child

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Agreed.

Dany coming to Westeros, from a book reader perspective, is BAD news. Her rule in Mereen has been a shitshow since the start. I could picture her show up in the thick of winter when the Others take over and wonder why she has no subjects to rule over.


As for Jon, I think his stabbing is the final step in letting the 'boy be killed and letting the man be reborn'.

Jon has grown a lot; Dany, not so much.

Jon acting like a man and a leader is the reason he got stabbed too

In the trailer I thought I saw Brandon at the northern weir wood? I thought that was in the 4th book. Anyway I can see them doing a couple of mid season time on that arc

Now I have to rewatch again