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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:30 am to
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:30 am to
Where can I find the literature on the letter? I forgot about it
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:31 am to
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Where can I find the literature on the letter? I forgot about it



which letter?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:37 am to
Actually probably all of them since I didn't pay much attention to those.

With any significance of course.
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 8:38 am
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:38 am to
I really think that they need to step up Rob's strong points - i.e.: winning battles, etc. and polish his character up a bit if they really want the non readers to get the same kind of blow that we got in the book. They have been telegraphing his weaknesses pretty strongly and I would think they still have to have some sort of dressing down of him from Walder Frey before we get to he big shocker.

And, has anybody else noticed that the show has been pretty stingy showing the kids' dire wolves with the possible exception of maybe in Bran's dreams a bit?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:54 am to
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Carson123987


I googled your gross OT thread. I hate you
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:55 am to
there are a few key ones but especially Robb's letter legitimizing Jon Snow and Ramsey's Pink Letter
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:56 am to
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I will burn down every pastry and sweets shop in America.



Flying to New Mexico and feeding his manhood to a goat. At the very least shaving his beard ala Pycelle
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:09 am to
Does anyone know where I can find the Theon chapter from the new book?

TIA
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:11 am to
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I googled your gross OT thread. I hate you


how gross was that shite bro
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:14 am to
GRRM's website has arianne's, used to have theon's, but i found this:

https://www.ign.com/boards/threads/sample-chapter-from-winds-of-winter.207815997/

someone copy and pasted the whole thing into a message board post
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:15 am to
Here's the Arianne chapter (this is the link where the Theon chapter used to be). LINK

Transcript of the Victarion chapter that GRRM read awhile back from WoW. LINK

Trying to find the Theon chapter.

ETA: Looks like it's been found. Sweet.
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 11:17 am
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 11:16 am to


thanks
Posted by shelly
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:30 pm to
Robb's Will

I'll have the Pink Letter there eventually with all the other letters Ramsay wrote for comparison. Yes, I have entirely too much time on my hands
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:34 pm to
I'm totally reading that when I get home.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:37 pm to
I've been half randomly clicking link to link through Wiki SOI&F site and found two interesting things which I thought I'd throw out here:

When Yoren stopped at Winterfell on his way from the Wall (Tyrion was accompanying him I think) to King's Landing, he told them about Benjen being missing. Bran was apparently very adamant that Benjen was not dead. I know this was before Bran had really developed his dreams and greenseer abilities but I think it may be one more piece of evidence to consider in our ongoing Benjen discussions.

The attack by Lannister forces on Yoren and the Night's Watch recruits seems to have been a huge breach of the laws that no one mess with them. Of course one could say that Yoren was getting involved with non Night's Watch matters by protecting Gendry (and Arya to an extent though I don't think the attackers were looking for her). I wonder if knowledge of that ever got out and got back to the Night's Watch. Seems like that would have some impact on how they view Lannister sympathizers. It almost seems like they could attack Lannister friendly types with a justification that it was revenge for that massacre.

Also, I wonder if killing a Night's Watch member and recruits could be seen as being on a level with things like Kingslaying and Kinslaying? It doesn't look like it.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:40 pm to
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When Yoren stopped at Winterfell on his way from the Wall (Tyrion was accompanying him I think) to King's Landing, he told them about Benjen being missing. Bran was apparently very adamant that Benjen was not dead. I know this was before Bran had really developed his dreams and greenseer abilities but I think it may be one more piece of evidence to consider in our ongoing Benjen discussions.


BENJEN IS THE HOODED MAN GODDDAMMIT.

Yes, I've now come full circle from page 1.

Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:47 pm to
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The attack by Lannister forces on Yoren and the Night's Watch recruits seems to have been a huge breach of the laws that no one mess with them. Of course one could say that Yoren was getting involved with non Night's Watch matters by protecting Gendry (and Arya to an extent though I don't think the attackers were looking for her). I wonder if knowledge of that ever got out and got back to the Night's Watch. Seems like that would have some impact on how they view Lannister sympathizers. It almost seems like they could attack Lannister friendly types with a justification that it was revenge for that massacre.


Don't know how GRRM will do it in the book, but in the show with Melisandre going to the riverlands supposedly to get Gendry, then Gendry could end up at the Wall when Stannis goes there to fight the Wildlings. Nights Watch could then find out about the Lannister attack directly from Gendry.
Posted by shelly
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

The attack by Lannister forces on Yoren and the Night's Watch recruits seems to have been a huge breach of the laws that no one mess with them. Of course one could say that Yoren was getting involved with non Night's Watch matters by protecting Gendry (and Arya to an extent though I don't think the attackers were looking for her). I wonder if knowledge of that ever got out and got back to the Night's Watch. Seems like that would have some impact on how they view Lannister sympathizers. It almost seems like they could attack Lannister friendly types with a justification that it was revenge for that massacre.


I can't really think of anyone who knows about the attack except for maybe the BwB?

Gendry > BwB > Tom of Sevenstrings > Edmure > Blackfish > Ser Desmond Grell and Ser Robin Ryger who are headed to the Wall

Not sure if the attack would have been on their minds when making plans though
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:09 pm to
I think the Lannister attack on Yoren will go unreconciled and forgotten.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:15 pm to
Greywater Watch Gruit


For all my homebrewers out there. Found this today looking for a spent grain bread recipe.
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