re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted by LE610N

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Posted on 4/16/13 at 3:57 pm to Sid in Lakeshore

Thanks all, this one is glad.

Posted by Sid in Lakeshore

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Posted on 4/16/13 at 3:59 pm to LE610N

May the seven be praised

Posted by CE Tiger

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Posted on 4/16/13 at 4:00 pm to Sid in Lakeshore

quote:
the seven

Crackpots worship the old gods

Posted by shelly

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Posted on 4/16/13 at 4:02 pm to LE610N

There's also The World of Ice and Fire which is coming out this October and can be pre-ordered on Amazon. It should have a bunch of background info on the history of Westeros and stuff. (Aegon's Conquest, The Faith Uprising, The Dawn Age, etc)

Posted by Sid in Lakeshore

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Posted on 4/16/13 at 4:12 pm to CE Tiger

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Posted by Sid in Lakeshore

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Posted on 4/16/13 at 4:35 pm to Sid in Lakeshore

quote:
The children of the forest were the first known inhabitants of Westeros, during the Dawn of Days: a race
small of stature who made their homes in the greenwood, and carved strange faces in the bone-white
weirwood trees. Then came the First Men, who crossed a land bridge from the larger continent to the
east with their bronze swords and horses, and warred against the children for centuries before finally
making peace with the older race and adopting their nameless, ancient gods. The Compact marked the
beginning of the Age of Heroes, when the First Men and the children shared Westeros, and a hundred
petty kingdoms rose and fell.

Other invaders came in turn. The Andals crossed the narrow sea in ships, and with iron and fire they
swept across the kingdoms of the First Men, and drove the children from their forests, putting many of
the weirwoods to the ax. They brought their own faith, worshiping a god with seven aspects whose
symbol was a seven-pointed star. Only in the far north did the First Men, led by the Starks of Winterfell,
throw back the newcomers. Elsewhere the Andals triumphed, and raised kingdoms of their own. The
children of the forest dwindled and disappeared, while the First Men intermarried with their conquerors.

This indicates that the Stark prevailed in the FAR north and the First men intermarried with their conquerors, the Andals.

If the Starks prevailed , perhaps some have not intermarried with there conquerors. Maybe there are some "pure blood" Starks in the FAR north, with the Others. It's been said before and I dismissed it but maybe the Starks and Others will be in league with the Children to take back Westeros from the Andal hordes....

This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 4:36 pm

Posted by Mr. Wayne

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Posted on 4/16/13 at 4:44 pm to Sid in Lakeshore

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maybe the Starks and Others will be in league with the Children to take back Westeros from the Andal hordes....

Maybe, but I think if that were to happen, neither Jon or especially Bran would have been attacked by the wights. Why would the Others byproducts be attacking their eventual ally?

Posted by Sid in Lakeshore

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Posted on 4/16/13 at 4:50 pm to Mr. Wayne

The wights may be mindless re-animations.

The others, on the other hand.....

Were Others present when the wights attacked Bran?

It does seem pretty CRACKPOT though. I just read FAR north and jumped on it.

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Posted by manwich

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Posted on 4/16/13 at 5:55 pm to Sid in Lakeshore

I think they mean above The Neck/The North. Winterfell was built by Starks during the Age of Heroes before the Andal invasion

Posted by Methuselah

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Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:26 pm to Sid in Lakeshore

I've long entertained the thought that the Others may be some more complex beings than justt evil bogeymen. They definitely seem sentient and even advanced in some ways. But I'm not really anticipating an Others, CoF, First Men alliance.

The Stark/First men connection with the CoF is much more likely though IMO. Just how that will play out is a mystery to me though including how it will impact their dealings with the Andals/Targs.

Posted by putt23

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Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:38 pm to Methuselah

I absolutely love this thread, but sometimes feel like I've never read any of the damn books because of it

Posted by saintsfan92612

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Posted on 4/16/13 at 7:49 pm to putt23

I finally got around to trying to tackle this thread at work today. I figured I would try to sum up all the theories in one post...I got to about page 50 before my brain melted out of my ears...

I got:
Hooded Man=Theon reflection of himself
Hooded Man=Benjen
Hooded Man=Blackfish
Hooded Man=Harwin
Hooded Man=Jon
Hooded Man=Mance
Weirwood paste is people
Benjen is alive and fighting a shadow war
Benjen is dead
Benjen is undead and leading the Others
R+L=J and Howland Reed is the only one alive who knows
Varys also knows R+L=J somehow
R+L=/=J
Jon=Azor Ahai and Dany=Nissa Nissa
Jon=Azor Ahai and Arya=Nissa Nissa (not Lannister-esque love, tho)
Rhaegar=Azor Ahai, Lyana=Nissa Nissa, and Jon=Lightbringer
Ned=shite swordsman
Aegon=Blackfyre=Mummer's Dragon
Aegon=Illyrio's son
Jon will end up with Val at the end
Jon is alive, but it was Melisandre who had him killed so he would be reborn as AA
Jon is dead but will warg into other animals a la Orell
Brienne will allow Jamie to kill her so that Jamie can live (trial by combat)
Jaime will allow Brienne to kill him so that she can live
Pretty Merris=Brienne?
Jamie will kill Cersei
Sandor will kill Robert Strong
Arya will wreck shite with Nymeria and her pack in tow
Dany will sail East to attack Westeros from the West
Blackfish will reveal Sansa's true identity at her wedding and will reveal Littlefingers role in her fathers death
Rickon is running a crew of Cannibals...lol
3 Dragon Riders=Jon, Tyrion and Dany
3 Dragon Riders=Aegon, Tyrion, and Dany
Bran will warg into Jon's dragon
Lady Dustin is anti-stark
Lady Dustin is pro-stark and just putting on a front
Varys=Targaryan
Varys=Blackfyre
Tryion=Targaryan
Bloodraven is the person/thing training Bran
Bloodraven warged into the Raven at castle black to save Jon from the wight and helped get him elected Lord Snow
Bloodraven is evil as hell and training Bran to become the Great Other that Melisandre foresaw
Bran was the one who warged into the Raven that got Bran elected
The lone wolf dies but the pack survives=the remaining starks will be reunited soon
Tysha is alive in Braavos and has Tyrion's daughter
CottonwasKing has an acreboyish attraction to Arya
The Others and the Children are fighting in league with each other against the Andal invaders
Rhaegar was planning to overthrow his father during/after Robert's Rebellion
Euron traded his dragon egg to the faceless man to kill Balon Greyjoy
Ned Stark did not kill Arthur Dayne-hence his son being nicknamed Ned...
Who wrote the letter to Jon? Theon, Ramsey, Roose, Mance, Jon writing to Mance who is acting as Jon, the 1989 Denver Broncos?
Hodor!!!
Too many baby swaps for mortals to comprehend

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Posted by CE Tiger

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Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:03 pm to saintsfan92612

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Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:08 pm to saintsfan92612

Hodor = Azor Ahai

Posted by BluegrassBelle

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Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:09 pm to saintsfan92612

At some point in my sorta free time I'm going to go back to my OP at the beginning of the thread and start linking some of the theories for newbies.

At some point.

Posted by CE Tiger

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Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:10 pm to NIH

i did read a nice theory that Hodor is the Son of Duncan the Tall and Old Nan