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womanly vocal inflection


Jesus. Every year I come to this board on national signing day, and every year I regret it.
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I’m tired of every LSU radio show have these clowns on that don’t know shite



Would you prefer that they have posters from here on to talk about recruiting? Or would you like the hosts to talk about recruiting from their own knowledge and get names and positions wrong? Or they could just not talk about recruiting at all on the radio?

Shea and Billy might not know shite, but they know more than anyone else does when it comes to LSU recruiting. So it's them or nobody. Unless you want to quit your job and become a recruiting reporter who does the job so much better than the current guys....
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$$$$$ NIL is killing college football


Yeah the days of Southern Miss and Tulsa winning national championships might be coming to an end...

College football has never been fair, and had always been dirty with only a handful of programs actually able to compete for titles. And it's gotten worse in the past decade, before NIL.

We're just mad because LSU is clearly a step behind now when we used to be one of the best programs in the sport. And we still might be, but I'm already tired of the complaining that the underpaid labor is now slightly less underpaid.
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Or you can look at the most important stats, Ws and third down conversions.


Sounds like you think Tim Tebow should still be a starting QB in the NFL...
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we were able to avoid a deeper dive at the time.



I wonder what were the chances of the NCAA investigating the Hicks deal if Segar hadn't started poking around. In real life I never want to criticize the whistleblower, but the NCAA is not real life. And then they threw a party for uncovering violations.
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Dollar to a donut that Chase, Shelvin, Vincent, Marshall, were all tired of school and quit going to classes.
Hope I'm wrong though.



A big part of why they opted out was so they could get money from an agent now and go work out to get ready for the combine. So yes, they definitely were not going to class (Marshall might have finished out the semester).
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Apparently there’s some legs to this.

Every year Corey does this to us.


If this is the price to pay to keep him happy and only a DB coach, I'm fine with it.
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What law am I breaking by giving a kid $10k of my money as an LSU booster?



You're not. The potential broken law is that the kid has to pay income tax on that $10k. And if he pays income tax and the money is coming from an impermissible source (a booster, in this case), the NCAA can see that and penalize the player. There is no law against you giving $10k to a random LSU student.

So the athlete has two options:
Either he doesn't break the law and pays taxes but gets caught by the NCAA

Or he breaks the law by not paying taxes, but may get away with it. Problem is the IRS isn't quite as toothless as the NCAA. They are still understaffed and overworked, but they have subpoena power and will want to know how you afford the apartment you live in and the car you bought.

re: Gilbert to transfer

Posted by Barney Rubble on 1/4/21 at 2:53 pm to
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Got him the ball a lot??


He was still a freshmen. Without a real offseason to mesh with the QBs. And he had 3 QBs. And he's a tight end. He was the 2nd leading receiver for LSU before Marshall (a first round pick and experienced Junior) opted out. And he may have been the leading receiver by the end of the year if he had stayed - some of Boutte's 300+ yards probably would have gone to him against Ole Miss.

Despite what he looks like 18 year old Gilbert is not yet 21 year old Kyle Pitts. I honestly doubt that the production (or supposed lack thereof) had anything to do with Gilbert's opt out and potential transfer.
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That governor tells you to stay in your house and put your mask on.

Why shouldn’t he feel entitled enough to hire/fire football coaches?


Do you get this mad about being told you have to wear a seatbelt and carry insurance too? Or are you just selectively stupid? Or is this a troll that I fell for?
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What about the podcast


Yeah I couldn't really give a damn about Vandy's coaching moves. But I am legitimately disappointed that he will no longer be on either the Cover 3 or Barton and Bud podcasts.
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The RPO has been around for like a decade now


I had on the Bluegrass Miracle over the summer when it came on TV and the announcers were talking about one of the teams running the RPO. And they weren't treating it like some new concept. I'm no football scholar, but it's probably been around for 20+ years.
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frick this is so retarded


You're not wrong. But we've got shite else to do.

re: Russ Callaway-Football Scoop

Posted by Barney Rubble on 12/31/20 at 11:46 am to
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Further evidence DP provides “leaks” to that site


Isn't that part of his job description? Handle the media spin around the program?
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Means nothing. Develop talent


Talent doesn't mean EVERYTHING. But it definitely doesn't mean nothing (while we converse on on a message board dedicated to recruiting)

There's a reason Bama, Clemson and Ohio State make the playoffs 80% of the time. And it's not because they have a better workout regimen. It's because they start with the best players.
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So now we're cool with 3rd in the west?


Permanently? Of course not. But the question was whether or not O gets fired next year for being 3rd in the west. Not after finishing 3rd for the 4th year in a row after the 2024 season

And I think that if LSU goes 10-3 next year with all the promising freshmen this year becoming sophomores there will be a lot of excitement going into a year with a junior Max Johnson, Boutte, Roy, etc. And I think it's asinine to think O would be fired in that scenario.

But that's just me.
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If LSU isn't improved at least to a runner-up finish in the SEC West, I think Orgeron will be fired.


Do you actually think O would get fired for going 11-2/10-3 and being behind bama and aTm next year? Or is that part just a troll?
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6'4" 315 lb


Hey, get your facts out of here. That's not what we're here for.
Yeah, I'd be worried about that as well. O has never struck me as a very diligent or hard working recruiter.
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DJ Durkin. He even has HC experience. LSU would be crazy not to take him.

Crazy.


I see what you did there.
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Did we worry that Joe Brady benefitted from being with Sean Payton?


No, but we would worry that Pruitt, Kirby, Muschamp, etc benefited from Saban. Cincinnati also has the best players relative to their competition (in the G5 obviously, not when they play B1G teams) and a defensive minded head coach.

I don't know squat about Freeman but it's a legitimate question if you know the context of college football outside of the power 5.
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61 years old and hasn't been a coordinator in 12 years


But he does look great for 61. So he's got that going for him. Which is nice.
I've heard from one of the recruiting "experts" (Bud Elliot, Barton Simmons, somebody like that) that the best thing for the player would actually be to sign the financial aid papers, but never sign a LOI. The financial aid papers legally guarantee the player a spot at the school, but it doesn't lock the player in if they change their mind.

We saw that with the O lineman that ended up at Bama that has been mentioned already in this thread. The player can sign as many financial aid papers as they want and a LOI is not required to enroll in school.

For instance, today Korey Foreman can sign financial aid papers with USC, LSU, CLEMSON, and UGA. He can sign up for classes at all 4 schools, but until he shows up to class in June, he's not committed to any school. Once he attends a class it locks him in the same way a LOI does.
I don't know how the free transfer will effect it this year, but normally the school has to release the player from the LOI. That happened with Zach Evans last year (signed with UGA but regretted it and asked out of the LOI) and Bru McCoy was a similar situation. Signed with the school, regretted it, asked to be released and was.

Technically the school doesn't have to release them but that rarely happens. Normally it's not worth the locker room headache and PR hit you would take if you told an 18 year old he can't leave.

Again, not sure if that will continue the same way with free transfers, but that's how it has always worked.
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UnluckyTiger thinks Gilbert stays



I doubt Gilbert himself knows if he's staying or not.
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Teenage boys are douchebags.



Some are. I would imagine that's more likely if they are D1 recruits getting told how good they are by grown men.

He should have handled it better, definitely. But the PA announcer shouldn't have ruined one of the biggest moments of the kids life either.
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ETA: this thread fricking sucks.


There's a reason for that OP...

re: O-Line is the difference

Posted by Barney Rubble on 12/16/20 at 6:11 pm to
Yes we need to recruit better on the O line, but D line and QB are the difference.

That's why Clemson was able to recruit in the teens and become a national power. Their high recruits were D linemen and QBs when they were on the come up. You can scheme around mediocre offensive lineman (at least, they did for years). They rarely send O linemen to the pros but had an excellent offense under Boyd, Watson, Lawrence and now DJ looks the part as well. But they send plenty of D linemen to the pros every year.

WR is becoming more and more important as well (teams straight up could not cover Chase 1 on 1 and that handcuffs the defense). But just last year our O line was good not great but we schemed to their strengths, had an exceptional QB and a very shifty RB who defenses had to worry about going out for a pass.

UGA has had one of the best O lines in the country for almost a decade it seems like. But their offenses have not been good (for the most part). Again, I agree we need to recruit better on the O line, but it's less of an issue than people are making it out to be. You need depth that can at least hold their own more than you need two first round tackles.

But if your QB sucks or your D line is getting pushed back 3 yards every play, that's it.
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better them than aggies.


Sark actually knows how to use offensive skill players and cater to their strengths. Jimbo hasn't evolved his offensive philosophy since 2004. It would have been much better if JoJo had gone to aTm.
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This is all very valid. I would really like to hear from Tommy Moffett why he is not been able to get these guys' weights in check


Weight is influenced more by your diet than your exercise. If I sit around all day but only eat 1200 calories, I'll lose weight.

On the flip side, if I work out twice a day, run 5 miles and burn 2000 calories but everyday I eat fast food and pizza and snack on unhealthy foods throughout the day, I'm still going to get fat.

If they do stuff like go and eat a pizza every night for a late night snack it doesn't really matter how much Moffett works them out or how healthy they eat at the nutrition center.

I would assume these kids have been growing their whole lives and have been encouraged to each as much of whatever they want, whenever they want. That can be a hard habit to break. Now they can't get away with being overweight since they aren't far and away the best talent on the field.

It takes discipline to be successful at this level. Some have it at an early age, some learn it during college and succeed, some never learn it and are busts.

Hopefully these guys learn it.
I'm glad we can have a civilized conversation about recruiting and not throw poop at each other like toddlers.

/s

You two take your flaming stupidity back to the Rant where shoe sizes bigger than IQs are welcome.