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re: Utah National Parks - How Many Days Minimum at Each One?

Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Capital Reef = 2
Arches = 2
Bryce Canyon = 1
Zion = 2 to 3
Canyonlands = 2


CR - 0
Arches - an evening
Bryce - 2 days
Zion - 1 day
Canyonlands - 0

I enjoyed the nearby mountains around Bolder and Moab much more.
Posted by LSUfan20005
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:21 pm to
North Rim opening June 5!!!!!!
Posted by mydougie89
Member since May 2016
89 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 8:13 am to
Thinking about going for the 4th and renting an air bnb by zion. Only have 3 full days there. What would be the best breakdown for this?
Posted by Burlee
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 4:30 pm to
For those of you headed to Zion (or other UT national parks) in the near future, are you hearing anything about when they will be fully up and running? We are RV’ing in the Watchman campground at Zion later this month but I’m seeing that the park shuttle is not operating and they are not letting vehicles longer than 23 feet in the park. also, the Grand Canyon shuttles are not running yet and I hear you really need the shuttles in Zion and Grand Canyon.
Posted by wickowick
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:12 pm to
I’m at Zion now. Options are limited with the park’s shuttle not running. We got into town yesterday afternoon and talking with a worker, she said this past weekend was as busy as Memorial Day weekend. Traffic was down a good bit from yesterday afternoon when we got into town. The scenic drive opens at 6:00, people start lining up at 4:30 to get on the scenic drive. They allow 300 cars in total, that has been filling up by 6:30. The narrows has limited parking, when it is full they close down the road at the Grotto, there is parking at the grottos that fills up then Zion Lodge.

There have been a ton of people parking along Hwy 9 between the scenic drive entrance and the first switchback. Those people are hiking or riding bikes 1/2 mile to scenic drive, plus 3-3.5 miles to the trail heads at the grotto or 6 miles to the narrows.

We are doing the narrows tomorrow morning and have an 8 year old with us. We decided not to risk not getting a parking spot and picked up spots on a private shuttle that will run us from Zion Outfitters at the entrance to the park to the narrows for $30 pp
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
29015 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:18 pm to
Are they giving any kind of indication on when they anticipate shuttles to open? We arrive in Vegas on June 26 but probably won't be going to Zion until after July 1.
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:24 pm to
A couple of weeks ago, the official talk around town was shuttles resuming in the fall, but since getting up here the locals think they might be running by the end of the month.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
29015 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:33 pm to
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A couple of weeks ago, the official talk around town was shuttles resuming in the fall, but since getting up here the locals think they might be running by the end of the month.


Ouch. I sure hope the locals are right.
Posted by iwantacooler
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Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:47 pm to
We are staying in the lodge a couple of nights next week. Hopefully that will give us a jump on the cars trying to get in the park.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
29015 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:53 pm to
Yeah, tell me about the lodge. Does that pretty much guarantee getting in?
Posted by iwantacooler
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:55 pm to
I booked a room a while back. They sent me a parking permit to hang from my mirror for the duration of my stay. I’m guessing it guarantees me a spot in the lodge parking lot, but I haven’t read too much about it.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46464 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:14 pm to
Yes, the lodge gets you on Scenic drive at any time. You can run to town and eat, etc and you have your spot. But this won’t get you a parking spot at any other trails, but besides the narrows parking (which Is around 3.5 miles away) everything else should be no more than a .5 miles walk away
Posted by Burlee
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2006
7324 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 9:18 am to
Thanks for the info!! I see where Zion Outfitters rents bikes. How would that bike ride be up to the narrows for kids? We are in watchman campground and can just walk to the outfitters. How does the private shuttle work - can they go up the scenic drive after it has been closed? And do you have specific times you have to be somewhere for the ride back out of the park?
Posted by TigerSaintInDallas
Member since Sep 2012
727 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 9:23 am to
Wow, that sounds like a mess. Although, biking in Zion doesn’t sound too bad!
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46464 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 3:19 pm to
Yea, Zion outfitters has bikes and narrows gear. We just got back from the narrows and it was well worth the money spent. I would recommend renting the gear from Zion outfitters, it is neoprene socks, good waterproof boots, that grip the rocks and a wooden walking stick.

You can rent the bikes and ride, but it is 8 miles slightly uphill to the narrows. Best bet is to get up early and get in line to drive and park at the narrows (we talked with a mom and daughter that got inline with the car at 4:30 this morning and they were 9th in line

The shuttles can access all the way to the narrows even when the parking lots are full
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
29015 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 4:33 pm to
Do you have a link with information on the shuttle you used?

Assuming when we arrive in early July the park is still like it is now, what would you advise we do? We were planning to spend two days in Zion. We will have a 4-year-old and an 8-year-old with us.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46464 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 8:24 pm to
We used Red Rock Shuttle, but there are a couple of operations running, all of them $30 pp. The flow rate of the virgin river was at about 70 cfs, that was all my daughter could handle in the narrows because you are walking upstream in the water around 40% of the time. If the flow rate stays up, you can check it here Flow rate , bring inflatable tubes so the kids can float the river next to the campground.

We are staying at Cable Mountain Lodge which is directly across the river from our hotel. The White in my picture is campers at the campground and the river is between them and us. Kids have been getting in the river in tubes a couple of hundred yards up stream and floating down a little ways and doing it again

This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 8:25 pm
Posted by iwantacooler
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Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 6/2/20 at 8:54 pm to
How is cable mountain lodge? It looked nice. I had a couple of nights booked there when Zion cancelled my rooms in the lodge. They have since opened the lodge earlier than expected so I swapped back to the lodge.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46464 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 9:14 pm to
Very nice, great location. On the property is Zion outfitters, brewery, gift shops, market and you get discounts from 10-20% at all those shops. 20 % even works on beer at the market. The lodge has a guest laundry. We have been pleased.

The views from the lodge are incredible
Posted by Burlee
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2006
7324 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:37 am to
Great advice in here. Thanks! We will be taking a shuttle to the narrows from the entrance our first of two days at Zion. Is it necessary to take the shuttle to the lodge area? Or can you walk that? I Think we will be hitting up that area on day 2.

ETA: we’ve got 2 days at Zion. What are the must see/must do things given the various closures? TIA
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 8:59 am
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