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Study abroad pre trip

Posted on 8/24/26 at 8:56 pm
Posted by hawgndodge
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Posted on 8/24/26 at 8:56 pm
My son is a junior at Fayetteville and will be attending the U of A Rome campus next spring. I'm thinking about flying him to London 2 weeks before he reports and letting him go solo across Europe. Wife is terrified he'll die obviously. Have a cousin who lives in London so my plan would be for son to drop off his big luggage there and then take a backpack and go from there and then end up back in London and fly to Rome the day he needs to be there to check in.

Anyone ever done anything like that or have any advice? He would fly out the 27th of December and report to Rome on the 13th of January.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 8/24/26 at 9:21 pm to
I spent 2 months backpacking through Europe before I started classes at U of Manchester. Why does your wife think he will die? Is he naive? Europe is very safe, my wife and I just got back from a month over there.
This post was edited on 8/24/26 at 10:09 pm
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:51 am to
quote:

Wife is terrified he'll die obviously.


Had to chuckle here - I hope you wrote it that way.

The rest sounds absolutely amazing and I'm sure it's something your son will remember forever.

I never did anything like that, but I'd say for him to have some kind of loose plan that he shares with y'all so mom is, somewhat, happy. Maybe he checks in every couple of days so y'all know he's good and where he's supposed to be. But also let him know that if he wants to say, "frick it" I was supposed to go here, but now I really want to go there...then feel free to do it, but also let y'all know that plans have changed.

Sounds awesome and would love to hear more about the trip next year, so keep us updated!
Posted by LemmyLives
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 6:54 am to
I wouldn't worry at all. UKI and European youths gallivant all over solo or in small groups. Just follow common sense crime prevention techniques, number one of which is don't look like you're lost, even if you are. An Apple Watch or similar where he can get walking directions without having to pull his phone out will be helpful, too (both to keep the phone from getting snatched and to keep his hands in his gloves.)

He'll pretty much only need cash for some bathrooms on the mainland, everything else is tap to pay, so don't load him down with a bunch of Euro/GBP "just in case."
Posted by hawgndodge
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 7:06 am to
He's her favorite by far. Everyone in her family knows it. Typical baby of the family type thing. (He was the baby until we adopted his two younger brothers) He is also by far the most capable in being able to do this. I wouldn't be concerned at all.
Posted by hawgndodge
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 7:08 am to
Yeah it was tongue and cheek.

I think he would have a blast.
Posted by deltafarmer
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:41 am to
I’d buy him a Eurail pass so he can go wherever he wants whenever he wants to go. He can cover a lot of ground with one of those.
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:11 am to
Yall know his maturity level but will say this, if yall are comfortable with him taking a solo trip, driving or flying, to visit friends in any US city, he will be absolutely fine in Western Europe.

Coming from someone who only flew 2 round trips before I was 22 and about to graduate college, but has since traveled a lot, much of a solo...its so much easier and safer to travel abroad to 99% of the world these days with technology and information. 80% of what I printed on my home printer in the early-mid 2000s was reservations and mapquest directions, now all that is needed is a phone and backup charger.

He will be fine.
Posted by TheChiefHasArrived
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 10:36 am to
Maybe take the train with him to his first destination to help get a lay of the land and train logistics which can be tricky the first time, especially once not everything is in english. Most things in Europe have english somewhere, but can't speak for everywhere. Would probably ease wife's mind as well.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 11:59 am to
One thing we discovered on our trip this summer is ChatGTP can tell you everything about your train from the platform it is leaving from to every stop it makes along the journey.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 3:15 pm to
He doesn't need big luggage, and London isn't a great jumping off point for a European backpacking trip, for obvious geographical reasons. I did two months in Europe with a large Eagle Creek backpack that looked vaguely like this: LINK

Now, if he wants to tour the UK, more power to him. But getting back and forth to London for a mainland Europe trip would be a massive time sink with no payoff whatsoever. As an example of what I did when I spent a summer semester in Lyon, France: I flew into Budapest, train to Prague, train to Vienna, train to Munich, train to Lyon. To leave: train from Lyon to Milan, train to Venice, train to Florence, train to Sorrento, train to Rome. Flew out of Rome.

Open jaw flight itineraries and student Eurail passes are his friend for this kind of trip.
Posted by hawgndodge
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 4:57 pm to
This is exactly what I was looking for! Thanks

Any other information or advice would be greatly appreciated
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 5:47 pm to
If you tell us what he’s into, we can make suggestions on cities to visit or avoid. It’s obviously a big continent with tons to do, so it’s important to be reasonable about time.
Posted by hawgndodge
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 5:49 pm to
Anything History related, architecture
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

Anything History related, architecture

So, Italy is obviously a major draw on that, but presumably, he’s going to be able to take weekend trips around the country, so I’m hesitant to include it in the pre-trip. But, it’s obviously an option.

Does he have any countries or periods in history he’s particularly fond of? Other than Rome, obviously :p
This post was edited on 8/26/26 at 6:08 pm
Posted by hawgndodge
Member since Jun 2009
5498 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:16 pm to
He hasn't really focused in on any one time frame he just likes learning about history in general and really likes interesting and different architecture
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 9:39 pm to
Rotterdam is full of different, contemporary architecture. The town was leveled during WWII so most all the buildings in the city are modern.

This building has a big market in it










Amsterdam has some great old buildings but also some cool new ones







We made a stop in Mons , Belgium to see their new train station






Posted by hawgndodge
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 9:41 pm to
THAT is what he's looking for. Awesome. Keep em coming
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 3:52 am to
quote:

(He was the baby until we adopted his two younger brothers)
quote:

we adopted his two younger brothers


I know it’s tough to apply actuarial logic to emotional situations but a 20 year-old hiking Western Europe is safer than the same age kid hiking in the American South. The distance away and it being in foreign countries makes it harder to see.

Good luck to him.
Posted by Pepperoni
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 10:38 am to
LemmyLives posted earlier with some good tips.
Common sense goes a long way—stay aware, look confident, and don’t appear lost. Avoid getting caught in big crowds when possible. Ditto on carrying some cash, especially small bills, and make sure the debit and credit card companies know he’ll be traveling.
Warm clothes and good shoes are a must for London in winter. The weather can get cold, wet, and messy.

Two weeks sounds like a long time, but unless he wants to do the “if it’s Tuesday, this must be Belgium” route, I’d suggest picking a few major cities and getting a real feel for them rather than trying to see everything.
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