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School me on snow ski gear (update page 3 post-ski trip)

Posted on 9/24/21 at 11:04 pm
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36179 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 11:04 pm
Haven’t been since I was little.

What are the must-have’s?
Socks - what kind
Thermals, head or face coverings, just sunglasses, boot warmers, backpack, etc?
This post was edited on 1/9/22 at 12:53 pm
Posted by TigerSaintInDallas
Denver
Member since Sep 2012
653 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 5:12 am to
I usually wear Darn Tough ski socks.

Definitely no sunglasses on the slopes or you’re seriously risking your vision over time in places like CO. Gotta get goggles, I have a nice pair from Smith that I like (I/O MAG).
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5646 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 9:38 am to
Darn Tough socks. As long as you have those other things you are good. Googles are something worth spending a little more on.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29506 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 3:02 pm to
10 years ago it was all about big puffy pants and jackets, these days it is about layering. Just go to any ski outfit or in your town and I can explain it to you and you can also try on a bunch of different stuff. If you’re going to splurge on anything, splurge on goggles, gloves, and socks
Posted by ccard257
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Oct 2012
1311 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 3:22 pm to
Get actual ski socks. And not too thick. Trying to save money with thick hiking socks will leave you cold and uncomfortable. Most of mine are smart wool.

Your head should have a helmet on it. Get a thin beanie to wear underneath when it’s real cold. If it’s super cold I do like a fleece neck gaiter for lift rides.

The smith I/Os mentioned are awesome, but probably more than you need to spend out the gate. Lower end offerings from any name brand should be fine.

If you want to save a little money on gloves, a pair of Kinco insulated work gloves and some poly liners have served many skiers well.

Dress in layers to be comfortably cool, not warm. Skiing is very active and if you get sweaty you will get cold.
Posted by TigerSaintInDallas
Denver
Member since Sep 2012
653 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 8:00 pm to
Definitely Smith I/Os are too expensive. I would go with a cheap Smith or Spy.

Don’t get cheapo Amazon goggles, I used some several days last season and I don’t think my eyes liked it very much. Definitely caused some painful days in my eyed afterwards.
This post was edited on 9/25/21 at 8:01 pm
Posted by fargobison
Member since Aug 2011
4310 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 8:44 pm to
Yeah get a decent helmet, I agree you can skimp on the goggles if you don't ski that much. As for clothing, where and when is going to impact that. If you are going to Big Sky in January, yeah you might want to get some warm stuff. If you are going to Colorado in March layers are the way to go.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35749 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 12:32 am to
quote:

Skiing is very active and if you get sweaty you will get cold.


Wool base layer is my go to for a lot of activities. Wool or silk will not make you feel cold when wet.

OP....cotton is a no no. It dehydrates you and makes you cold when wet. It doesn't wick.

Don't go cheap on waterproof gloves.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
7471 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:33 am to
On a related topic can yall give some advice on what to look for in a snowboard? I'm going to buy my first one next week
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36179 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

Your head should have a helmet on it


Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36179 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

I would go with a cheap Smith or Spy.


These are gloves?
*Goggles. Got it. Thanks!

Yeah Big Sky in January.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 5:02 pm
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10401 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 5:49 pm to
Snowboards are categorized by what type of riding you want to do, profiles and how experienced you are. There’s a big difference in flex between and all mountain board and a park board. But the flex also should reflect what kind of rider you are but that’s not the only thing flex will dictate. Also profile should be considered for skill level and what you might like and each board company has their own proprietary profiles (sort of) There really is a lot that goes into it and shouldn’t be a decision you rush. I’ve watched a lot of YouTube review videos online about boards after I narrowed it down to about 6. Ultimately I’ve chosen the Arbor Formula Camber. I’ve done EXTENSIVE research over the past 8 months and while I’m far from an expert and any advice I give might not be correct for you I may be able to answer questions about flex, sizing, profiles, different companies, ride style, etc. just lemme know here and I’ll do my best.

ETA: Don’t forget boots and bindings. They have almost as many factors to choose from.

ETA: Im a beginner/intermediate all mountain rider who likes to hit tree runs and here is the setup I’m about to order in case you want to look them up
$379 Arbor Formula Camber. Camber is the profile
$229 DC Mutiny boots (lace ups). I’ve chosen lace ups over BOAs after a lot of research and opinions of pro riders because of the control you have over laces.
$199 Nitro Rambler bindings
So looking at right around $900 after all is said and done.
This post was edited on 9/26/21 at 6:03 pm
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5646 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

$379 Arbor Formula Camber. Camber is the profile
$229 DC Mutiny boots (lace ups). I’ve chosen lace ups over BOAs after a lot of research and opinions of pro riders because of the control you have over laces.
$199 Nitro Rambler bindings
So looking at right around $900 after all is said and done.


Don’t forget the travel bag and airline fees and tunes. My skis really start to degrade at about 15 days and that’s a quick $60 for tune and core repairs; probably should be done every 10 days. If you go once a week per year, its tough to make skis/board make financial sense. You can rent good stuff. It doesn’t have to make financial sense though.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
7471 posts
Posted on 9/26/21 at 9:03 pm to
yeah I have no idea what I'm getting into. I went snowboarding for the first time ever last year and loved it. The first week I went was just learning but the second week I really started to get it down. Now I live 30 minutes from a resort and bought a season pass for this year. There's a shop near my house that sells their rentals from last year so I was going to go buy some of their used gear
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10401 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 4:18 am to
Even if you buy used gear from a shop make sure you understand what you’re buying. A lot of the times the boards the rent to beginners are boards that make it easy to get down the mountain but that’s about it. They’re usually heavy and limited. but these are usually too shitty to actually sell so they don’t bother. I went this route when I first started looking and finally found the board I rode that rented for like $25 It was a rossignol and you couldn’t even find it on their site or or any normal sites like evo or similar. It looked like it was strictly built as a rental board. It’s the higher end stuff they sell and that’s when all the different factors of what the board is comes into play. You don’t want to buy a board that you hate being on even if it is only $100.
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 4:19 am
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4343 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:16 am to
quote:

On a related topic can yall give some advice on what to look for in a snowboard? I'm going to buy my first one next week



Demo shop. See what you like best for your skill level.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 10:53 am to
Agree with the socks. I thought I could get away with layering normal socks but your feet will sweat and then freeze and will be numb which is annoying.

Helmet is a must, I don't care how good of a skier you are, its not about you, its about other skiers who suck and pose a risk. I had some out of control idiot zoom by me and whack me on the helmet with his pole. Who knows what happens if I didn't have a helmet on.

I prefer goggles that make it easier to see in cloudy/snowy conditions than goggles that darken things in sunny conditions but that is my preference.

You don't need to splurge on an expensive jacket and pants. The $65 pants I got at Dick's are just fine and I want to say my jacket was from REI around $200. Layering is more important. No idea why someone would spend $800 on a jacket.
Posted by CuseTiger
On the road
Member since Jul 2013
8205 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:19 am to
I'm in the market for some ski goggles that must be made in the USA. Any recommendations? I also haven't dealt with lens swaps before but may be interested if there's several sets that can be used in bluebird conditions, whiteouts, etc.
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10401 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:49 am to
I wear Outdoormaster goggles. Have a bluebird day lens and an overcast/snowy lens but I just tried googling about them and couldn’t find anything about them being made in the USA so I’m assuming that means they are not.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

I'm in the market for some ski goggles that must be made in the USA.


I've got Native goggles (and sunglasses) that were made in USA.

They're older, but I do know they still have factories in the USA.
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