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need some advice booking multi-city flights to AUS

Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:38 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:38 pm
this is way above my pay grade...

my travel dates will be Oct 1 (or thereabouts) for 2 weeks (or thereabouts, i'm flexible). this will be my wife's 50th birthday trip.

looking to fly from MSY to brisbane, AUS and then back home in some manner. what i'd like to do is spend a couple days in brisbane and the gold coast/byron bay, then drive up the coast to the whitsundays/cairns and fly home.

i have no idea how to do this or if its even doable within reason. one thought i had would be to overnight in SF or LA to shorten the flight(s). also i am terrified that i wont be able to endure a 20+ hour flight...

any advice?
should i call i travel agent?
Posted by CaptainJ47
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:51 pm to
Ok, so let’s clean up this ASM so folks can help/follow. First, when you say AUS, I presume you are referring to Australia and not Austin (AUS is the Austin airport code).

Next, where are you traveling from?

Third, when you say 20+ hour flight... there are no 20+ hours flights. Are you referencing 20+ hours of travel?

Just trying to make sure I follow the request.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:00 pm to
yes sorry, brisbane australia, from MSY.
the longest flight i've ever taken was under 6 hours, so forgive my naivete'.

example flight i'm seeing:
MSY > BNE departs 7PM on 9/30, arrives 5:15PM on 10/2.
that seems like 20+ hours but i'm sure i'm missing something. may i assume that traveling economy for that flight is really bad idea?
Posted by BootheelSoldier
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:08 pm to
Longest flight on that trip will likely only be 14-16 hours. Most likely you're looking at flying MSY to LAX to BNE. Total travel time will be 20 hours but that's considering two flights and a layover.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:14 pm to
If you go to google flights, there is a "multi-city" option at the top left....the default is round trip. Pick multi-city and input MSY to BNE as the first leg and Cairns (CNS) to MSY as the return leg. I see msy to LAX with a 3 hr layover and then LAX to BNE that is a 14 hr flight. Coming back you fly Cairns to Sydney to DFW to MSY. I would consider breaking the return trip up with a day or 2 in Sydney.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

I would consider breaking the return trip up with a day or 2 in Sydney.

good call, thank you.
and thanks for the assist on google flights
Posted by CaptainJ47
Gonzales
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:26 pm to
Thanks for clarifying. Wasn’t trying to be an arse just get more details on your trip so folks can help.

Like others have said, you won’t have a 20 hour flight but you will have some long arse, miserable flights. If you could afford upgrading ($ or some sort of credit card bonus points system) it would make it doable. I personally can’t go that long in coach- just too tall and struggle to sleep.

If you fly back through Dallas, I would not stop in Dallas. If you fly through SFO or LAX, you may consider it. I personally like to push through and would plan on sleeping on the last flight home.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:33 pm to
thanks

right now i'm looking at the following itinerary

Brisbane 2 nites
Byron Bay 2 nites
Noosa Heads 1 nite
Hervey Bay/Fraser Is 1 nite
Arlie Beach 1 nite
Whitsundays 3- 4 nites
Townsville 1 nite
Cairns 2 nites

Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

If you could afford upgrading ($ or some sort of credit card bonus points system) it would make it doable. I personally can’t go that long in coach- just too tall and struggle to sleep.


A friend who is 6'-4" just went over there in coach and paid the extra for the bulkhead seat that has extra leg room plus bought the seat next to him which was way cheaper than biz class. Since its 2 of you buying the 3rd seat between you would be nice if you are in economy.
Posted by C
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 3:31 am to
Strongly recommend not driving up the coast from Brisbane to Cairns. Just not much worth seeing vs other things you could do.

LAX sucks for international transfers so prefer to leave out of Houston. That will take you direct to Sydney. Your wife (if she’s like most females) will love sydney over Brisbane. I’d then fly to Hamilton island. Spend about 3 days there. The down to Brisbane, recommend seeing the Steve Irwin zoo then down the coast to a few stops to Byron bay. Fly from Gold Coast to Sydney and back home.

Only alternative to consider would be to jump from Sydney to New Zealand.
Posted by AugustaTiger
Augusta, Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 5:55 am to
quote:

Only alternative to consider would be to jump from Sydney to New Zealand.


^2nd this. Do a full week in each. Two very different places.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:42 am to
quote:

LAX sucks for international transfers so prefer to leave out of Houston. That will take you direct to Sydney. Your wife (if she’s like most females) will love sydney over Brisbane. I’d then fly to Hamilton island. Spend about 3 days there. The down to Brisbane, recommend seeing the Steve Irwin zoo then down the coast to a few stops to Byron bay. Fly from Gold Coast to Sydney and back home.

appreciate the ideas

so that would be:
MSY>SYD
SYD>HTI
HTI>BNE
BNE>MSY

in brisbane i could rent a car and then road trip around there for several days. Steve Irwin was a hero of mine so that would definitely be on the list, along with other parks/outdoor stuff around there. i've budgeted 5000 for flights so i should be OK from what i see
Posted by SippyCup
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:30 pm to
I’ve don’t it twice, once in economy plus and the other in business/first. Nothing compares to a full size seat that lays completely flat, but economy plus was not bad either.

If you’re going that far, make time for New Zealand on your way in or out.

It’s 16 hour from LAX to Mel and depending on the wind 14 hours on the way back. The flight there is easy as you leave at night so sleeping is a little easier. You also have a plethora of good movies on those long flights.
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 9:31 pm
Posted by C
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 2:39 am to
rental cars aren't too expensive out of Brisbane. Obviously you're driving on the "wrong side" of the road so be prepared for that. If you're not comfortable with that, there are a great deal number of train, subway and bus options to most of the big things even to steve irwin zoo which is well out of the city. I'd certainly recommend Uber for most travel in the cities outside of peak times. Sydney traffic can be crazy so certainly consider the subway or walking there for most things in the city.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 9:20 am to
thanks I knew about the left side thing but I imagine that takes some getting used to. I’d wait until we got to Brisbane to get the car

any whitsundays advice? We aren’t really resort people I’d prefer something a little more rustic. Looks like Hamilton Island has the most options? Is there an easy way to day trip to other islands? I’d not want to lay around on the beach all day
Posted by C
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 6:03 pm to
Hamilton is very much upper class; not really a resort but very high end. Other option is Airlie Beach on the mainland. Small city but a few options to explore the mainland as well. Either case there are tours multiple times a day. Kids holidays are in September so shouldn’t be very crowded or in high demand. You can also rent a boat to drive around yourself. There’s a cove with hundreds of sea turtles nearby.

If you like rustic, also recommend oreilly’s rain forest south of Brisbane. It’s on top of a small mountain; a bit of a hectic road to the top but great for a nature walk that time of year with spectacular views.
This post was edited on 1/4/20 at 6:05 pm
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:47 am to
quote:

Brisbane 2 nites
Byron Bay 2 nites
Noosa Heads 1 nite
Hervey Bay/Fraser Is 1 nite
Arlie Beach 1 nite
Whitsundays 3- 4 nites
Townsville 1 nite
Cairns 2 nites


I would suggest fewer stops, leVe more time for true places you visit. Those 1 night stops are a waste of 4 days of your vacation time. You will he wore the heck out by the time you get home.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

LAX sucks for international transfers so prefer to leave out of Houston. That will take you direct to Sydney. Your wife (if she’s like most females) will love sydney over Brisbane.


This.

Also, have you thought about a stop in Fiji on the way home? If not, I would suggest it. Another option would be Rotorua, New Zealand.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22079 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 8:59 pm to
I’ve made this trip twice and from “door to door” is about 30 + hours each way. You lose a day going, but make it up on the way back.

Premium Economy is the way to go if you can’t do business/first.
Posted by Poison
Melbourne, Australia
Member since Sep 2019
217 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:42 pm to
Hi mate - I'm Australian and have done the trip to the US about 9-10 times these past ten years, including Nov/Dec last year and again in a few months' time...although I'll be confined to the west coast this March for a Vegas bucks.

Firstly, which airline are you flying? I would recommend Qantas in preference to United, but appreciate that might not be workable and note that United have upgraded their ageing fleet so it's far better than a few years ago. Last November we flew to Dallas on Qantas (which is a 15-hour flight from Sydney) before skipping over to MSY. In order to get to New Orleans, I have also flown Melbourne - LA - Houston on United and back in the other direction. There's no getting around it - it's a long way. Virgin is also a good alternative though I have never flown to the US with them.

Secondly, I wouldn't recommend too much driving in the short time you have allocated yourself. Flying domestic airlines in Australia is superior to flying domestically in the US. Better aeroplanes and shorter wait times at airports. A road-trip like that would be more suited to a longer stay. Also, be prepared to drive on the left hand side and be aware that speed limits are actually pretty strictly enforced here, including with fixed speed cameras and the like. The blood alcohol limit is only .05 too; you'll pretty much lose your licence on the spot if you exceed it and cops can pull you over for any reason, so bear that in mind if you want to have a couple of relaxing drinks at any stage (oh, and our beer is way heavier too, unlike American beer which the locals will probably describe as "having sex in a canoe ... forking close to water". (I actually like US beer, especially the local Port Orleans brewery stuff...but that's a tangent)).

Thirdly, all the places you have listed are enjoyable but I would recommend knocking a few off the list and staying in others longer. You will be exhausted and you won't have sufficient time to do things in any event.

I will say it is a long way to come for only 10-14 days especially if it is likely to be your first/only excursion down here. I agree that it's worth giving some consideration to New Zealand too but that almost warrants a separate trip. Conversely, I'd suggest coming to Melbourne and/or Sydney for a portion of it. There is not much to do in Brisbane - it's far from the international city that the other two places are. Maybe reserve that for a day or two at the end of the trip and use it as a base when you go out to Australia Zoo.

14 days split between Melbourne - 3/4 days, Sydney 3 days, Whitsundays 3 days (try to work in the Great Barrier Reef before it is completely destroyed by warming waters), Noosa or Byron Bay for 2 days and home via Brisbane would be a great cross-section of the country.

If you want any other suggestions please let me know. I don't spend much time up north, but I have been to most of the places on your list at one time or another. My parents more recently too, so happy to ask them.
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 11:50 pm
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