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re: 3 night stop in Europe
Posted on 7/21/24 at 7:29 am to Yeti_Chaser
Posted on 7/21/24 at 7:29 am to Yeti_Chaser
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Culture
Low end food
High end food
Ancient architecture
Classical architecture
Rome fits this bill, right?
My two cents, and there are a ton of people on here with a lot more experience than me, I’d go Rome or Paris. Assuming ny wife had never been, we would be going to Paris for the whole City of Lights, romance angle. A lot of women seem to just have a special fondness for Paris.
For me; I’d go Rome because of history and food.
I’ve never been to Barcelona but it’s next on my list.
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 9:39 am to Yeti_Chaser
You never said if you guys had been to any of those cities? Are any on a major bucket list or not? That'd certainly drive the decision further.
I'll complicate things further. Consider Stockholm Sweden! We spent several days there. Really enjoyed the scenery. Food. Great airport.
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You could spend a 1/2 day minimum in the spectacular Vasa Museum!
I really liked Copenhagen, but I liked Stockholm better FYI.
I'll complicate things further. Consider Stockholm Sweden! We spent several days there. Really enjoyed the scenery. Food. Great airport.
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You could spend a 1/2 day minimum in the spectacular Vasa Museum!
I really liked Copenhagen, but I liked Stockholm better FYI.
Posted on 7/21/24 at 4:05 pm to Nole Man
I've never been to Europe at all. She has only been to London, Austria, and Switzerland. Never any of the cities on the list. I'm not really into big cities so none of these are on my bucket list, although I've never been to a European city so I suppose that opinion could change after this trip. Italy is pretty high on our bucket list so I will rule out Rome. We will go there on a dedicated trip for Italy when we have more time.
These cities are really just chosen based off where I can connect to/from Malta so Lisbon and Stockholm are not options. Sounds like the frontrunners are Paris, Amsterdam, Barcelona, and Copenhagen.
These cities are really just chosen based off where I can connect to/from Malta so Lisbon and Stockholm are not options. Sounds like the frontrunners are Paris, Amsterdam, Barcelona, and Copenhagen.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 7:55 am to Yeti_Chaser
Got it. We've been to Italy 4 times, Rome twice. Definitely agree that'd be a trip unto itself. Several weeks at least!
You have narrowed it down to 4 great choices. Can't do wrong with any of them. Coming off a Mediterranean experience, maybe you'd want to scratch off Barcelona. Really fun city though. These major cities can be crowded year-round, so there's that. Not as much so though in October. Not really bad, just a "head's up".
Was in Paris last year in in the Spring. If you've never been, it's really spectacular. BUT...I'm going to throw another curve ball here.
One of our best trips ever was doing a Seine cruise, spending a few days in Paris and then renting a car and driving over to Bayeux for a week as the base. Touring the Normandy Beaches. Hon Fleur. Mont-Saint-Michel. That ought to be way up there on your bucket list for another separate trip as well.
So, my vote overall based upon the airport and the other factors remains Amsterdam. Copenhagen is really cool, and you'd get a "colder weather" experience after being in the Mediterranean.
Tough (but great) choices.
You have narrowed it down to 4 great choices. Can't do wrong with any of them. Coming off a Mediterranean experience, maybe you'd want to scratch off Barcelona. Really fun city though. These major cities can be crowded year-round, so there's that. Not as much so though in October. Not really bad, just a "head's up".
Was in Paris last year in in the Spring. If you've never been, it's really spectacular. BUT...I'm going to throw another curve ball here.
One of our best trips ever was doing a Seine cruise, spending a few days in Paris and then renting a car and driving over to Bayeux for a week as the base. Touring the Normandy Beaches. Hon Fleur. Mont-Saint-Michel. That ought to be way up there on your bucket list for another separate trip as well.
So, my vote overall based upon the airport and the other factors remains Amsterdam. Copenhagen is really cool, and you'd get a "colder weather" experience after being in the Mediterranean.
Tough (but great) choices.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 8:32 am to Yeti_Chaser
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Munich
Just did 4 days in Munich with the fam. Kids are grown. We had a blast. The day long excursion to Neuschwanstein castle was the highlight of the trip. Radius tours (iirc) and our guide was Thomas from bossier city and LSU grad who now lives in Bavaria. Was really awesome.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 9:38 am to Nole Man
I agree with Nole.
I think Amsterdam is the quintessential "first time" European city, and I don't mean that in a derogatory way. It just melds together a lot of the little pieces that people who haven't traveled in Europe envision. You'll hear Dutch (a good thing) but no language issues (or feigned issues as some encounter in France). Good dining options but relatable for almost any American palate. Hospitable businesses/hotels, bikes, canals, great walking city, AMS is great.
Just a good all arounder IMO.
I think Amsterdam is the quintessential "first time" European city, and I don't mean that in a derogatory way. It just melds together a lot of the little pieces that people who haven't traveled in Europe envision. You'll hear Dutch (a good thing) but no language issues (or feigned issues as some encounter in France). Good dining options but relatable for almost any American palate. Hospitable businesses/hotels, bikes, canals, great walking city, AMS is great.
Just a good all arounder IMO.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 9:51 am to Yeti_Chaser
Since this is your first time in Europe, I would do Paris. Paris incredible.
3 days is a very short Paris trip, but you can take it at your own pace and just enjoy yourself. And October is pretty perfect there.
Rome and Amsterdam, 3 days is actually perfect for both, but Rome is so chaotic that it would not be very relaxing at all after a few days in Malta.
3 days is a very short Paris trip, but you can take it at your own pace and just enjoy yourself. And October is pretty perfect there.
Rome and Amsterdam, 3 days is actually perfect for both, but Rome is so chaotic that it would not be very relaxing at all after a few days in Malta.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 9:55 am to Yeti_Chaser
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I've never been to Europe at all. She has only been to London, Austria, and Switzerland. Never any of the cities on the list. I'm not really into big cities so none of these are on my bucket list, although I've never been to a European city so I suppose that opinion could change after this trip. Italy is pretty high on our bucket list so I will rule out Rome. We will go there on a dedicated trip for Italy when we have more time.
These cities are really just chosen based off where I can connect to/from Malta so Lisbon and Stockholm are not options. Sounds like the frontrunners are Paris, Amsterdam, Barcelona, and Copenhagen.
3 days in Paris is a pretty short Paris trip, but I think its what I would recommend.
Stay in one of the inner districts close to the Seine, don't jam pack it with "We have to see everything". Go to the top of the Eiffel, do the Louvre and maybe the D'orsay...
and enjoy yourself.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 9:59 am to Pettifogger
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I think Amsterdam is the quintessential "first time" European city, and I don't mean that in a derogatory way. It just melds together a lot of the little pieces that people who haven't traveled in Europe envision. You'll hear Dutch (a good thing) but no language issues (or feigned issues as some encounter in France). Good dining options but relatable for almost any American palate. Hospitable businesses/hotels, bikes, canals, great walking city, AMS is great.
It has a great argument. 3 days is a perfect amount of time in Amsterdam, whereas Paris it would be better to have at least 5
Posted on 7/22/24 at 1:09 pm to Fun Bunch
Alright, as my adopted home, I’ll jump on the Amsterdam bandwagon.
Great place, if you’re a confident urban cyclist do rent a bike as it’s the best way to get around, point your fingers intuitively left or right as turn signals (none this weird 90 degrees angle with your left arm shite).
Visit and cycle through the Vondelpark, do some sort of canal cruise - self-piloted with Sloep Delen or Mokum Boot are good bets.
If you’re really an avid cyclist and want a relaxing excursion away from Amsterdam’s hustle and hustle you can cycle northward to the quaint fishing villages of Monnickedam, Marken, Volendam and Edam the whole circuit can be done in a day.
For drinks and food I can throw some tailored recommendations in you let indicate your interests, OP, but a few favorites:
- Aarenssnest a quaint pub in the heart of the canal belt specializing in Dutch beers
- Brouwerij ‘t IJ, Amsterdam’s oldest and most well known craft brewery, there original brewpub is in the shadow of/attached to a historic windmill on the eastern fringes of the city center. They have another location called “Het Blauwe Theehuis” (the blue tea house) in the middel of Vondelpark which I prefer.
- Café Brecht - a Berlin style quirky cafe, modeled after a turn of century living room, they have a good rotating selection of German Beers and snacks, as well as some nicely priced seasonally rotating cocktails and natural wines. Slightly eccentric artsy crowd, but also yuppy-ish and trendy.
- Sins of Sal - trendy cocktail bar with high end bites inspired by latin American fare with a twist (primarily Mexican)
- Hannekes Boom - a favorite of locals and tourists alike, sporting a large waterfront terrace with several docks and lovely views onto the city center , on sunny days patrons arrive on foot, by bike or boat.
- FUKU Ramen - a high-end Ramen joint serving a very excellent value for money tasting menu, and hosting walk-in ala carte days on Sundays.
- Luminair - trendy rooftop cocktail perched atop the Hilton Doubletree next to Centraal Station, unparalleled views over the city center.
- Tales & Spirits - another excellent cocktail bar.
- Blauw - high-end Indonesian cuisine, which the Dutch have colonized/claimed as their own.
- China Sichuan - a formerly Michelin-starred Chinese restaurant boasting multiple locations around the RLD. They may have lost their star some years ago, but the food is still excellent and mouth numbingly spicy in true Szechaun style fashion
- Sea Palace - the big floating pagoda, near the central station, it’s not all gimmick they serve excellent Dim Sum here for lunch (Amsterdam has some top-notch Chinese restaurants if it wasn’t already apparent)
- Mozzico - serving up delicious authentic Italian (Roman-style) pizza, I recommend the Diavola
- Parakeet - a gourmet Nachos bar, American owned, they fry their totopos up in house. Inventive tasty cocktails and homemade salsa queso blanco
- A-Fusion - Asian fusion fare served in tapas style sharing/small plates. Not Michelin starred but accoladed (“Bib Gourmand”)
- Box Sociaal - an Aussie style brunch place with two locations. Good cocktails especially their house bloody mary.
- Plantage - an attractive elegant but not overly expensive institution. French influence pan modern European fare.
- De Kas - haven’t been but it’s a very highly regarded and Michelin-starred restaurant. kas means greenhouse and the idea is that they produce most of their food
- La Oliva - serving the best pintxos (tapas) in Amsterdam
- Café Soundgarden - a divey bar with a lovely canal-side patio/terrace, which is 420-friendly for those so inclined . Vibe is an eclectic mix of local Dutch and internationals, with tinges of punk and grunge. Great place to enjoy the fruits Amsterdam in the sunshine.
- Skatecafé + Garage Noord - two adjacent techno clubs in the North of Amsterdam (Noord), younger-ish crowd but this is one of the more popular clubs or pairs thereof, locally.
Stacks - American owned, the concept and decor is diner-style but it’s more high end with an emphasis on local and seasonal ingredients and experimental dishes.
Great place, if you’re a confident urban cyclist do rent a bike as it’s the best way to get around, point your fingers intuitively left or right as turn signals (none this weird 90 degrees angle with your left arm shite).
Visit and cycle through the Vondelpark, do some sort of canal cruise - self-piloted with Sloep Delen or Mokum Boot are good bets.
If you’re really an avid cyclist and want a relaxing excursion away from Amsterdam’s hustle and hustle you can cycle northward to the quaint fishing villages of Monnickedam, Marken, Volendam and Edam the whole circuit can be done in a day.
For drinks and food I can throw some tailored recommendations in you let indicate your interests, OP, but a few favorites:
- Aarenssnest a quaint pub in the heart of the canal belt specializing in Dutch beers
- Brouwerij ‘t IJ, Amsterdam’s oldest and most well known craft brewery, there original brewpub is in the shadow of/attached to a historic windmill on the eastern fringes of the city center. They have another location called “Het Blauwe Theehuis” (the blue tea house) in the middel of Vondelpark which I prefer.
- Café Brecht - a Berlin style quirky cafe, modeled after a turn of century living room, they have a good rotating selection of German Beers and snacks, as well as some nicely priced seasonally rotating cocktails and natural wines. Slightly eccentric artsy crowd, but also yuppy-ish and trendy.
- Sins of Sal - trendy cocktail bar with high end bites inspired by latin American fare with a twist (primarily Mexican)
- Hannekes Boom - a favorite of locals and tourists alike, sporting a large waterfront terrace with several docks and lovely views onto the city center , on sunny days patrons arrive on foot, by bike or boat.
- FUKU Ramen - a high-end Ramen joint serving a very excellent value for money tasting menu, and hosting walk-in ala carte days on Sundays.
- Luminair - trendy rooftop cocktail perched atop the Hilton Doubletree next to Centraal Station, unparalleled views over the city center.
- Tales & Spirits - another excellent cocktail bar.
- Blauw - high-end Indonesian cuisine, which the Dutch have colonized/claimed as their own.
- China Sichuan - a formerly Michelin-starred Chinese restaurant boasting multiple locations around the RLD. They may have lost their star some years ago, but the food is still excellent and mouth numbingly spicy in true Szechaun style fashion
- Sea Palace - the big floating pagoda, near the central station, it’s not all gimmick they serve excellent Dim Sum here for lunch (Amsterdam has some top-notch Chinese restaurants if it wasn’t already apparent)
- Mozzico - serving up delicious authentic Italian (Roman-style) pizza, I recommend the Diavola
- Parakeet - a gourmet Nachos bar, American owned, they fry their totopos up in house. Inventive tasty cocktails and homemade salsa queso blanco
- A-Fusion - Asian fusion fare served in tapas style sharing/small plates. Not Michelin starred but accoladed (“Bib Gourmand”)
- Box Sociaal - an Aussie style brunch place with two locations. Good cocktails especially their house bloody mary.
- Plantage - an attractive elegant but not overly expensive institution. French influence pan modern European fare.
- De Kas - haven’t been but it’s a very highly regarded and Michelin-starred restaurant. kas means greenhouse and the idea is that they produce most of their food
- La Oliva - serving the best pintxos (tapas) in Amsterdam
- Café Soundgarden - a divey bar with a lovely canal-side patio/terrace, which is 420-friendly for those so inclined . Vibe is an eclectic mix of local Dutch and internationals, with tinges of punk and grunge. Great place to enjoy the fruits Amsterdam in the sunshine.
- Skatecafé + Garage Noord - two adjacent techno clubs in the North of Amsterdam (Noord), younger-ish crowd but this is one of the more popular clubs or pairs thereof, locally.
Stacks - American owned, the concept and decor is diner-style but it’s more high end with an emphasis on local and seasonal ingredients and experimental dishes.
This post was edited on 7/22/24 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 7/22/24 at 3:15 pm to Yeti_Chaser
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Amsterdam
This would be my choice. One of my favorite European cities. The people are very friendly and inviting. English is spoken everywhere.
Take in the Anne Frank House; remember to buy your ticket in advance. Do a canal tour. Book a day trip to Rotterdam, Delft and The Hague. Go see the Dutch Masters. Eat all the Frites.
Barcelona is kick arse too. Would be a close second from your list.
Vienna has its charms too. If doing that; book a day trip to Hallstatt. One of the most amazing views on the planet can be found there.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 8:44 pm to Yeti_Chaser
Sorry……..All the above
Posted on 7/25/24 at 3:50 pm to Yeti_Chaser
Fly into Rome or Florence and then go straight to smaller towns in Tuscany like Volterra and Siena....
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