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1st England trip advice

Posted on 1/14/23 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Uroblast
SE TN
Member since Jan 2010
122 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 1:40 pm
Making plans to spend about 2 weeks in England this summer. Flying in/out of London. Want to go to London surrounds, the Peak District, Lake District, possibly York. I've driven plenty in other countries but never in a commonwealth country on the left side. Obviously renting a car is the best way to make this trip but I can't lie, I have some anxieties about it. Probably the best thing I could do is set up outside the main traffic areas and drive out from there instead of fighting London traffic. Any logistical advice on a location to stay around London where I can do London stuff by the Tube but also easily get out of town with a car rental and not get killed in a roundabout would be appreciated. Hope this makes sense. I think I'll be OK once I get out of the major population centers.
Posted by midlothianlsu
Midlothian, Texas
Member since Oct 2009
1413 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 2:58 pm to
Windsor maybe.
Posted by lilibet
Member since Sep 2019
357 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 6:49 pm to
Tours leave out of London for the Cotswolds and Stonehenge. These are both worth looking into. Check out Highclere Castle as well if you are a fan of Downton Abbey
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
6770 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 7:53 am to
Cambridge. Severely under appreciated and logistically easy from London, historically significant, and very pedestrian friendly.
Posted by Uroblast
SE TN
Member since Jan 2010
122 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 9:17 am to
Thanks for the responses. All of those look compelling. Windsor would be close to the rental area at Heathrow but then I have to drive out of heathrow. I really just need to grow a set, drive, and just be careful.

I think I have my plans set for southern England but what about York, Durham and points north? Any advice on interesting places (big history buff)? Is Lindisfarne Island worth it? Not going into Scotland on this trip

Will have a pint and cheers to you all in thanks!
Posted by MAROON
Houston
Member since Jul 2012
1778 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 9:37 am to
Spend a few days in London without a car. When you are ready to explore the outside areas then train to your first destination (for instance Oxford). Rent a car there and do all the outside London stuff. . Once finished. Turn car iin and train back to London for a few more days.
Posted by midlothianlsu
Midlothian, Texas
Member since Oct 2009
1413 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 10:48 am to
Windsor car rental

I have never driven in the UK so I have no driving advice. Windsor is a cool place though.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18750 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 2:41 pm to
Land at Heathrow, then take the Heathrow Express train into the city. Train ends at London Paddington station. Cab or Uber to the hotel.

You can take bus tours to the Cotswalds and other areas outside London. Trains are easy to ride to area towns like Bath for a daytrip. Driving/parking a car in London would be a huge hassle and expense. Hell, you have to pay 15 pounds a day congestion charge to drive in the city at most times.

When ready to head north, take a train to York. Rent a car when ready to leave there and drive to Lake, Peak, etc. The driving will be much easier up north than in London, which I would never do. Turn your car back in at York, then train back to London.
Posted by Rollwave034
Member since Feb 2013
521 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:23 pm to
Just did 3 weeks this spring. Absolute favorites were Yorkshire Dales and the Lake District with the Cotswolds and Northumbria coast second. London highlights for me were beefeater tour at Tour of London and British Museum. I used public transportation, took train to Lake District and rented a car in Kendal and did northern england in a car. Took train back to London and flew out. Windsor is an easy miss for me, as well as Stonehenge
Posted by Rollwave034
Member since Feb 2013
521 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:25 pm to
Adding that Holy Island was cool but not that cool. Would skip it to go to yorkshire dales or another day in Lake District personally.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38671 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

plans to spend about 2 weeks in England this summe


Just be aware strikes are happening on the tube lines, train lines, bus lines and many other industries that might affect tourists. The strikes are usually for a day or 2 at a time but screw up everything for a few days after. Hopefully they get things sorted by summer but keep an eye on it. Personally, I wouldn't book a trip to England this summer.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22079 posts
Posted on 1/15/23 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

strikes are happening on the tube lines, train lines, bus line


There was a tube strike my last day in London last year. It sucked.

To the OP: Make sure you go to an old historic pub (Ye Olde Cheddar Cheese, The Mayflower, etc) on a Sunday and get the traditional Sunday Roast dinner. Not a flashy sit down restaurant. You will want to soak in the hundreds of years of history while eating great food. Prime rib, mashed taters & gravy, carrots, other root veggies, and Yorkshire pudding.

A local pub close to your hotel would also be a great place for fish & chips.
Posted by Mike Joyce
Member since Jan 2021
393 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 6:51 am to
It will be cheaper to go to Delhi or Lahore. Same thing these days.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22156 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:13 am to
When will you be there? Go to the Goodwood Festival of Speed. And you don't really need a car in England, just use the trains.
This post was edited on 1/16/23 at 8:15 am
Posted by Uroblast
SE TN
Member since Jan 2010
122 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 12:31 pm to
Mid June for 2 weeks. Thanks everyone above. Great advice. Have a friend here in states with family still in London and surrounds. Will try to get some info about strikes. If risky, might hit Scotland and Ireland instead. Have not bought flights or anything yet.
Posted by TigerGD
Fulshear, TX
Member since Aug 2007
131 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 9:24 am to
Look into the train access to the areas that you plan to visit. You will be surprised at how little you need a car.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20430 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:04 am to
quote:

And you don't really need a car in England, just use the trains.


If all you have used is trains in England then you would miss out on tons of stuff. Or it be a huge PITA.

Cars are still the best method of transportation in Europe outside of middle of the city to middle of the city.

London is a fine city, but I much prefer the England outside of London and its much better to have a car. As said just don't drive your first couple of days there and then I always recommend having a GPS going on the dash or built into the car because they will help you go the right direction in round a bouts and turns.

How many in your group OP? Just you by yourself?
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

Cambridge. Severely under appreciated and logistically easy from London, historically significant, and very pedestrian friendly.


Ditto for Oxford.

Both extremely notable university towns close to London. Oxford is probably my favorite place in the U.K., partly because I'm a huge fan of C.S. Lewis and Tolkien.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 12:20 pm
Posted by Uroblast
SE TN
Member since Jan 2010
122 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:03 am to
Thanks to all for the great advice. I will either use Oxford or Cambridge as the pick up for the auto and keep traveling by car. Also thanks for NE England recs. I’ll knock off the Holy Isle and add more time at York.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20430 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 8:29 am to
I know this is cliche but many of my favorite times in England are simple days like small towns with a small castle nobody knows and then hitting a beer garden or pub. The beer gardens with kids with small outdoor areas and playgrounds are a lot of fun.

I always recommend if you are getting outside of the cities to give yourself plenty of time outside of the big tourist attractions. That’s also where having a car is really nice because trains and buses don’t make special trips to them so a car is a lot faster and easier.
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