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Wiring my house(internet)

Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:58 pm
Posted by Nomex0619
BR
Member since Dec 2016
222 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:58 pm
So I bought a flooded home. Complete rebuild, nothing but studs. Just finishing up my electrical. I did a complete rewrite bc of the age and conditions of everything. I was thinking about cutting the cable and going the streaming route. I don't want to deal with the buffering and lag time tho. I've heard of running CAT5 and all that. I'm clueless when it comes to any tech savvy stuff. Help me out fellas. Got a 4 bedroom house. So 4 bedroom TVs, living room TV, and a TV outside. I do have a fire stick and enjoy that. Thinking about put one of them on each tv as well. Xbox PlayStation in the boys bedroom.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14874 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:13 pm to
easy to run and terminate- buy the tool and diy

IF nothing else - pull all the cable yourself, mount boxes and leave extra in boxes- pay someone to terminate

Or whoever is going to be your ISP- have them pull the cable- and go wireless

Lots of options
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 8:15 pm
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
Amérique du Nord
Member since Nov 2009
2771 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:30 pm to
My recommendation is to put a structured wiring box somewhere central, and bring your internet into it and Cat 5e or Cat6 out from there all over the house. Terminate the cable in wall plates in every room and go from there. You can do just about whatever you want with such a setup including reliable wireless over any area in your house. If it were me, I'd go ahead and wire it with coax while its is naked as well, unless you are totally strapped for cash and can't budget for it.
Posted by robchand58
Denham Springs LA
Member since Nov 2012
629 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:34 pm to
Drop one connection in the attic (high up wifi access point).. Perhaps corners of the house, the patio and doorways for security cameras. Wherever you THINK you might hang a TV or site a computer, put two plugs. Its a meticulous process to put the ends on, but you only have to do it once.
Posted by Monday
Prairieville
Member since Mar 2013
5005 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 9:25 pm to
We ran over 1000 ft of cat6 after the flood. Here are some tips:

-keep your router and access point as central as you can get it in the House
-run multiple wires (I did 4) to every location you could possibly use
-buy bulk and DIY
-invest in a good switch to use. Research the different types and what uses you need it for
-test every wire and connection at least two times
-you can get a keystone for pretty much any connection you need. It makes bundling things easier and looks much neater
-do everything before you seal up the walls. Trust me, it’s easier
-do not skimp. Spend a little extra money and get higher quality materials.
Posted by Nomex0619
BR
Member since Dec 2016
222 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 9:51 pm to
What's the difference in cat5&cat6?
Invest in a good switch? Any suggestions.
Keystone? What is that?
Yes I wanna get this done before the guys come spray the insulation in the walls
Posted by Nomex0619
BR
Member since Dec 2016
222 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 9:51 pm to
Terminate?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 9:40 am to
quote:

What's the difference in cat5&cat6?


Cat5e tops at at 1Gbps. Cat6 can go 10Gbps, but only at 164 or so feet. Cat6A can go the full 328 feet at 10Gbps.

In other words, at least go with Cat6 for future proofing. For household runs Cat6A probably isn't worth it though, since I doubt any household run except for extreme OT ballers is going more than 164 feet.
Posted by snapper26
Member since Nov 2015
521 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 12:25 pm to
Run wires for anything you may want, cameras, tv's, gaming devices, then multiple for the living room and anywhere else you may need more cables.

Punch down blocks are easy once you get past the first few.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16410 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 4:49 pm to
Agree with running the coax at the same time. You can find those dual outlets at HD for the Cat 5/ & Coax. You will want to run those everywhere you plan on having a TV in case you ever decide to go back to cable. And while you may see it as an unnecessary expense now, cable/satellite providers will charge you $75+ per hookup.
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:59 pm to
Can anyone recommend a switch to run a house? I have all the lines run but they aren’t live because there is just a bunch of cat5 wire bundled together in the basement. Probably looking for 8 ports.
Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
4785 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 11:11 pm to
Do yourself a favor, catch an AT&T truck in your neighborhood, and ask the technician for 100' or so of fiber optic cable to run from your network closet or wherever you end up placing your modem/router/switch/etc out to your home's utility entrance. Just regular, non-terminated fiber will work fine. The point being that you can run that line while you have the house stripped down. If / when your area gets fiber optic, you'll be setup and ready to go.

Otherwise, be sure you have cat6 in a home run configuration (i.e., from the source to the destination) and not simply daisy chained from one outlet to the next. Also, make sure you have a couple of cat6 feeds heading out to the home's utility entrance.

Otherwise, I'd recommend power and network access somewhere near the top/center of your home. A good wireless router placed in the attic can spread the connection way better than sitting under a desk in some remote room.

Finally, I'd wire every closet with a light switch, a cat6 ethernet feed, and a power source. Obviously, this would be in addition to wiring all the places you know that you will want a hard-wired connection.

If you are certain about cord-cutting, there's no need to run coax. BUT, if you think there's ever a chance you'd want any kind of cable (i.e., Cox, Charter/Spectrum, Dish, DirecTV), then it's a good idea to at least pull RG6 coax to possible TV / internet locations--again with a feed leading out to the home's utility entrance.

As far as putting ends on the Cat6, you can technically cheat by just building a punchdown and then using a short patchcord. In that scenario, you'd pull anywhere from 1 to 6 runs into a common outlet box and then use a 1,2,3,4, or 6 port faceplate to terminate the runs. 12 inch patch cords are way cheaper (and better) to buy premade than the time it takes to build them yourself. Speaking as someone who has built 1000s of patch cords, the premade ones are far superior.

Main point is to just run the wires. Even if they end at a blank faceplate, they are much easier to connect if they are already there versus having to run new ones--speaking as a guy who has to run new ones all day for a living.

Oh, and finally, for the love of God, please, please, please don't staple all that shite to the studs on the way down. If I come behind you and need to pull a different kind of wire (or fiber) down the same wall, the last thing I want to discover is that some fastidious craftsman has nailed everything down--taking away what would otherwise be a perfectly good pull string.

/rant
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Speaking as someone who has built 1000s of patch cords...



I feel your pain man. Lord do I feel your pain.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Probably looking for 8 ports.
you want more.
I installed this one recently.
LINK
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2109 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 12:09 pm to
Don't listen to anything FCP just posted. Non terminated fiber? And getting some for free from an Att truck
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 12:12 pm to
so a random ATT truck wont give a random non ATT customer 100 feet of fiber cable. for free?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78086 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 12:15 pm to
Can someone please try this and report back.

Also please film it.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

Non terminated fiber? And getting some for free from an Att truck
Fiber is pretty cheap, 100' probably cost AT&T less than $10. Not so far-fetched for a tech to hand some out for a 6-pack or something.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 12:45 pm to
i jut dont understand why he would recommend that when you do get fiber in your neighborhood you can just tell the tech to install the box wherever you want it. Why do extra work?
Posted by BottleGnome
Kenner, LA
Member since Sep 2014
133 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 1:47 pm to
If you want to make terminating twisted pairs easier order some of the cat6 keystones. I no longer do punch downs because the ones I order have 2 tabs opposite each other that each hold 2 pairs. The only tool needed is a pair of snips to strip the jacket.

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