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Sunbird promising iMessage for android

Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:09 pm
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2165 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:09 pm
Anyone else see this news? Apparently they are claiming to be able to use full featured iMessage on android with e2e encryption and all other iMessage features. They are signing up for beta access now. I saw one projection of a release date in the summer.

I don’t know how long it will take for apple to shut it down, but they seem confident they will be able to stay running.
Posted by FnTigers
Member since Sep 2021
1897 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:18 pm to
Looks awesome. Would be a gamechanger!

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Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2165 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:25 pm to
I signed up for the beta. I have an iPhone now, but will hopefully be able to put the beta on my chrome os tablet. And if it works as they are stating, I’ll probably go back to a pixel phone.

I’ve seen a couple of people commenting that they have seen an early version and it worked, but had some minor glitches.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39463 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:33 pm to
Whatever happened to the service for Android that supposedly wouldn't compress videos coming from iPhone users?

I forgot what it was called, but I seemed to recall this was supposed to "help" with video compression or something like that.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3900 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:41 pm to
No way, they are literally looking at, and selling all your messages. Basically a middleman.
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2165 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:46 pm to
Surely once it is more broadly released someone will confirm, but they claim in the articles from Mac world and android authority that nothing is stored on sunbirds servers and messages are e2e encrypted.

I know companies lie all the time, but this should be pretty easily proven if they are and would likely be a dealbreaker for all involved. Would be pretty dumb to lie about
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11949 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:11 pm to
Can I get imessage on a PC? That would be awesome for very specific reasons that don't apply to most.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 5:55 am to
One way or another Apple will shut them down.

Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2165 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 6:15 am to
They said there will be a web app too.

And I agree, I don’t see anyway this is lasting if they can even get it to work at scale. But perhaps with all the antitrust talk going on around Apple this is a catalyst for them opening the service up on their own.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
450407 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:23 am to
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One way or another Apple will shut them down.

Can someone explain to me why Apple values iMessage so much?

Are green boxes to signal non-Apple phones really that valuable? Because the system doesn't seem too special otherwise.

What's so special about iMessage?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62433 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:47 am to
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Can someone explain to me why Apple values iMessage so much?


Apple makes their money on phones and see iMessage as iPhone ecosystem lock in. I think this has been a misstep and several years ago Apple should have tried to turn iMessage into a cross platform everything app like weChat and what Elon Musk plans to do now with Twitter. They could have added in enough monetization to make up for any iPhone cannibalization.

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Are green boxes to signal non-Apple phones really that valuable?


Android has a reputation as being for the poors, being poor <<<<<< not being poor. Google probably should have made a separate Android fork for entry level phones with different branding. The flagship phones are not cheap but suffered from that same stigma for years.

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What's so special about iMessage?


I think the better question is how did Google not have a better messaging strategy for the last decade plus to make a product that could have ended this rivalry? On top of that most of these other messaging apps like Facebook Messenger would probably be niche apps if Google had come up with a better messaging client built in to Android. But like most Google products, they came out with a million different versions and kept switching and killing which app was the app. Here's an article outlining their failure in this space LINK /
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 8:48 am
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3900 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:52 am to
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What's so special about iMessage?


Just takes one a-hole with a green message icon in a group chat, and the whole thing is ruined. We've kicked people from group chats before.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57944 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Looks awesome. Would be a gamechanger!
why? Android already has RCS messaging.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62433 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 9:29 am to
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Anyone else see this news?


In the article I read yesterday which I can't find now, the reporter said it did not work for them. Apparently their solution is routing your communications through an iDevice or Mac.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57944 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 9:29 am to
quote:

What's so special about iMessage?
nothing...
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57944 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 9:31 am to
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Just takes one a-hole with a green message icon in a group chat, and the whole thing is ruined. We've kicked people from group chats before.

and he is the a-hole?
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2165 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 9:34 am to
The article from Mac world said they could get it to work with their personal iCloud account, but once they used a “loaner” iCloud login it worked really well.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
23344 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 9:38 am to
Apple will go scorched earth to stop it. They know iMessage is literally the only carrot they have left and my guess is they'll spend almost an infinite amount of $$$ to protect it.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84195 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 9:47 am to
quote:

Just takes one a-hole with a green message icon in a group chat, and the whole thing is ruined.
Can you explain this? I have never had an issue with it.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
12378 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:00 am to
quote:

Apple will go scorched earth to stop it. They know iMessage is literally the only carrot they have left and my guess is they'll spend almost an infinite amount of $$$ to protect it.


Yep. Or they can always tell their shareholders we'll lose potentially billions of dollars so we can make Android users happy...
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