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Speakers on laptops

Posted on 9/14/23 at 3:59 pm
Posted by MJackson
Member since Dec 2006
1126 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 3:59 pm
Rant: [ON] OFF

Why do companies make speakers on the underside of laptops nowadays? makes no sense at all. the sounds is terrible when i place it on my bed or lap, which is ridiculous, since they're called laptops and meant to be used that way

just bought this HP laptop, and these two alleged "speakers" on either side on the top part of the keyboard have no function. already returned 2 laptops in recent weeks because of similar issues

why do laptop manufacturers do this despicable act these days? what's the logic of putting the speakers on the underside of the laptop, where the sounds is drowned out, or muffled? it was never a problem before

Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6571 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:04 pm to
I always buy Ultrabooks, never bigger than about 13", so that guarantees the speakers will be on the bottom. But, on a laptop, I'm only relying on the speakers to tell me I got a new email, I'm not watching a Metallica concert through anything built in.

My audio issues on Teams meetings through the built in speakers are due to the person talking, not the cheap arse speakers put in the wrong place. I do spend a lot of meetings with my colleagues from Southeast Asia with my ear pointed towards the laptop trying to hear WTF certain people are saying.

Earbuds? Wired or BT? Far easier fix than returning a laptop.
Posted by MJackson
Member since Dec 2006
1126 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 10:48 am to
i mean, if i'm in the house by myself, i hate wearing earbuds/earphones (wired or wireless). I'm not an audiophile, so I don't care about the lack of superb sound quality of a laptop. I just wanna hear music/speeches while I do other stuff

again, never had an issue on previous laptops. speakers on top is so common sense and straightforward as opposed to the underside in which the sound is greatly muffled and distorted
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
11997 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 11:02 am to
I recently started using a bluetooth speaker from amazon.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3598 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 11:57 am to
quote:

speakers on top is so common sense and straightforward as opposed to the underside


Your picture is literally bitching about speakers being on the top of the laptop. What in the Karen are you actually wanting?
Posted by MJackson
Member since Dec 2006
1126 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

Your picture is literally bitching about speakers being on the top of the laptop. What in the Karen are you actually wanting?


if you read my post, i mentioned it. the speakers/dual set of holes on top of the laptop are both non-functional. i'm not even sure what they're for

the attached pictures show that the speakers where the sound is emitted from are on the underside of the laptop, which is beyond sh*tty

sorry for not attaching this earlier



Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3598 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:24 pm to
on an Envy?

LINK


There are speakers connected to those grills, no idea why sound isn't coming out of them.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
78229 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:32 pm to
News flash. Laptop speakers have shitty audio.

Heehee!! Shamon!
This post was edited on 9/15/23 at 4:33 pm
Posted by MJackson
Member since Dec 2006
1126 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

on an Envy?

LINK


There are speakers connected to those grills, no idea why sound isn't coming out of them.




yeah, it's an HP Envy. this one

that's what i figured. makes no sense as to why those aren't speakers. no sound is coming from them, only the 2 bottom ones on the underside. super annoying

i'm trying to figure out their purpose if they're not speakers

Posted by MJackson
Member since Dec 2006
1126 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

News flash. Laptop speakers have shitty audio.


i don't care about having top notch audio quality. that's not the issue


Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10155 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

makes no sense as to why those aren't speakers. no sound is coming from them, only the 2 bottom ones on the underside.

The description says dual speakers and there are only 2 bottom ones.

Perhaps the top holes have a cooling function.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6571 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

speakers on top is so common sense and straightforward as opposed to the underside in which the sound is greatly muffled and distorted


Honestly, I'd just buy a separate set of earbuds (I like Soundcore) that I configure to connect to the laptop. I use different color earbuds for different uses. Blue is for X, white is for WHITESUPREMACY (it's a joke, Chicken), coral is for Y, etc.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40909 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 7:09 am to
Designed to be placed on a flat surface and not your lap. On a flat surface the sound is suppose to bounce off the surface. Whether you agree that is better, that seems to be the thought process

Assuming top holes are for intake and the speaker grills probably exhaust some heat.
Posted by MJackson
Member since Dec 2006
1126 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 8:04 am to
quote:

Designed to be placed on a flat surface and not your lap. On a flat surface the sound is suppose to bounce off the surface. Whether you agree that is better, that seems to be the thought process

Assuming top holes are for intake and the speaker grills probably exhaust some heat.




yeah, i called the tech support guy, and he and his supervisor didn't know what the grills were, but they thought they were cooling vents

so it's called a laptop, but it's NOT meant to placed on top of my lap? hahaha

like i said, makes no sense that for years, conventional wisdom was that a laptop is meant for a multitude of ways/situations, and now, it's only meant for a hard surface

BTW, not mad at you. i appreciate you trying to help. just venting my frustration at a very seemingly ridiculous product design which has never been problematic before

Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27441 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 10:34 am to
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so it's called a laptop, but it's NOT meant to placed on top of my lap? hahaha


Early laptops produced very little heat, because the components were very weak. As laptops have become more powerful, they put our far more heat, and they (generally) need active cooling solutions. Early solutions had intake on the bottom and exhaust on the back. And no matter how many times people were told not to put the laptop on a soft surface that would restrict airflow, they wouldn’t listen. So, most solutions now either have intake and exhaust in the back (less than ideal, as hot air cycles through), or intake on the top or sides and exhaust on the back.

There are only so many surfaces in a modern laptop, all of which are needed for cooling, I/O, and audio, and there simply isn’t enough to go around. Considering the prevalence of headphones among laptop users, foolproof cooling takes priority over foolproof audio.
Posted by MJackson
Member since Dec 2006
1126 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Joshjrn


thanks for the detailed explanation. makes some sense. keeping the device functional for a longer period of time is obviously more important, just wish that there was a way to not sacrifice other basic functions

oh well. thanks again for explaining
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27441 posts
Posted on 9/16/23 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

thanks for the detailed explanation. makes some sense. keeping the device functional for a longer period of time is obviously more important, just wish that there was a way to not sacrifice other basic functions oh well. thanks again for explaining


There’s a potential savior: USB-C.

For the last several years, laptops have been dealing with I/O glut. They were being expected to have several USB-A ports, Ethernet, SD, headphone/mic port, and a display out, usually HDMI. On a thin laptop, there isn’t enough height to stack them, so they have to be side by side. And because of how thin laptops are now, you can really only put them on the back third. There just wasn’t room for anything else.

With the rise of USB-C, there might be a light at the end of the tunnel. While it’s not the best at any one thing, it’s very, very good at everything. And the connector is very small. I’m hoping we see models start to fully sell out and just put two or three USB-C ports and call it a day, leaving room for highly efficient active cooling systems as well as competent sound systems.
This post was edited on 9/16/23 at 12:23 pm
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